By Dr M. Amjad Khan
Research by Dr Amjad Khan (Medical Research Institute, United States) has proved that many products of multinational firms including, but not limited to –
TOOTH PASTE,
SHAVING CREAM
CHEWING GUM,
CHOCOLATE,
SWEETS,
BISCUITS,
CORN FLAKES, TOFFEES,
CANNED FOODS,
FRUIT TINS,
have PIG FATS in them as ingredients.
This is shown in the form of E-Codes printed on the packs of such products. So we must try to avoid items with the following E Codes:
E100, E110, E120, E 140, E141, E153, E210, E213, E214, E216, E234, E252,E270, E280, E325, E326, E327, E334, E335, E336, E337, E422, E430, E431, E432, E433, E434, E435, E436, E440, E470, E471, E472, E473, E474, E475,E476, E477, E478, E481, E482, E483, E491, E492, E493, E494, E495, E542,E570, E572, E631, E635, E904.
Lately We found the code E631 printed on the wrapper of LAYS POTATO CHIPS. The following images clearly show code E631 printed in the ingredients of LAYS POTATO CHIPS as flavour enhancers. Pig is HARAAM for Muslims. SO we MUST avoid eating it. These idiots are playing with our beliefs and making us eat whatever has been rsetricted by Allah and His Apostle (PBUH). We must be raise our voices against this crime.
Published by alaiwah
ALAIWAH'S PHILOSOPHY
About 12 years ago, while studying Arabic in Cairo, I became friends with some Egyptian students. As we got to know each other better we also became concerned about each other’s way of life. They wanted to save my soul from eternally burning in hell by converting me to Islam. I wanted to save them from wasting their real life for an illusory afterlife by converting them to the secular worldview I grew up with.
In one of our discussions they asked me if I was sure that there is no proof for God’s existence.
The question took me by surprise. Where I had been intellectually socialized it was taken for granted that there was none.
I tried to remember Kant’s critique of the ontological proof for God. “Fine,” Muhammad said, “but what about this table, does its existence depend on a cause?” “Of course,” I answered. “And its cause depends on a further cause?” Muhammad was referring to the metaphysical proof for God’s existence, first formulated by the Muslim philosopher
Avicenna.
Avicenna argues, things that depend on a cause for their existence must have something that exists through itself as their first cause. And this necessary existent is God. I had a counter-argument to that to which they in turn had a rejoinder. The discussion ended inconclusively.
I did not convert to Islam, nor did my Egyptian friends become atheists. But I learned an important lesson from our discussions: that I hadn’t properly thought through some of the most basic convictions underlying my way of life and worldview — from God’s existence to the human good.
The challenge of my Egyptian friends forced me to think hard about these issues and defend views that had never been questioned in the milieu where I came from.
These discussions gave me first-hand insight into how deeply divided we are on fundamental moral, religious and philosophical questions. While many find these disagreements disheartening, I will argue that they can be a good thing — if we manage to make them fruitful for a culture debate.
Can we be sure that our beliefs about the world match how the world actually is and that our subjective preferences match what is objectively in our best interest? If the truth is important to us these are pressing questions.
We might value the truth for different reasons: because we want to live a life that is good and doesn’t just appear so; because we take knowing the truth to be an important component of the good life; because we consider living by the truth a moral obligation independent of any consequences; or because we want to come closer to God who is the Truth. Of course we wouldn’t hold our beliefs and values if we weren’t convinced that they are true. But that’s no evidence that they are.
Weren’t my Egyptian friends just as convinced of their views as I was of mine? More generally: don’t we find a bewildering diversity of beliefs and values, all held with great conviction, across different times and cultures? If considerations such as these lead you to concede that your present convictions could be false, then you are a fallibilist.
And if you are a fallibilist you can see why valuing the truth and valuing a culture of debate are related: because you will want to critically examine your beliefs and values, for which a culture of debate offers an excellent setting.
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slamz
i am a quality executive in quality assurance department in lay pakistan.i am also a student of food science and technology…..as per my knowledge in all over the pakistan flavours seasonings enhancers and all such products are provided by IFF international flavours and frangrances.stemp of hilal certificate from saudia arabia is labelled on their products….
i also wana mention that i know about a lot of people in higher management even in UK with whom we have a direct contact,are v practicing muslim….
plz satisfy me.and i want details….
fariha humayun
Dear Fariha,
This is really a sensitive issue. If you are in QA dept of Lays then u should be more into it. Why r u so silent after your first reply. Can’t you provide any satisfactory proof on this? Or it is better to be quit like GE of PEPSI COLA Mr. Kh. Abdullah?
Regards.
Hi this is TABi here,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,would any one among the authorities,whether dr.Fariha or anyone else like to reply the Questions n rumours flying all over.we want to know the reality with proof………………….reply plzzzzzzzzz
*Fairha Said: i am a quality executive in quality assurance department in lay pakistan*
Do you really think that someone working at Lay’s would not even know how to spell the name of her own company? the post is full of spelling erorrs. It is obviously by some silly boy with too much time on his hands.
Drama. E codes are not necessarily related to pigs.
its right
Medically speaking we should avoid junk/Fast Food, and especially From Forign outlets and companies.
i agree wid ya completely…..n so says the modern biological research from the west……so avoid
Please send me your email id.
regards,
wajahat
wel i think ,MISS FARIHA, u shud satisfy us being the member of lay pakistan. why dont u make us clear about the issue by giving solid proofs or HALAAL cert. from saudi govt. bcz LAYS are so popular here specially among school n college boys n girls. and if its haram it shud be strictly avoided.
plzzzz do let us know about it.
Islam is getting defiled finally pagal paigambar’s religion is defiled so much fun for the non muslims this is great as it will lead to decline of islam. after all in pakistan when children are raped that should be the consequence.
Lays Chips ma Pig Fat Shamil Hai Lehaza Tmam Muslim Se apil hai Ke Ye na Khayen.
we shold must take an action upon it through sms and through internet the govt is not doing any thing
hi iam asad bhatti thanks for informing me that i can stop the lays and frwd this msg also others for cotact me this is my num contact me 03313506581
salamz, dz z fariya memon, i would like 2 knw z dz correct information??? nd i thnk u r d best person 2 rep…….. coz u belong 2 dat compuny!!!!!!!!!!
hi fariha ! how r u
whats ur mobile number.plzzzzzzzzz………….?
FARIHA PHUSSI GUNDO MEN LOLLZ, HAHAHAHAHAA
sharam karo , ghar main nahin hain maan behn
Bait-ullah ko tore dena chota gunah hay , kissi musalmaan ko gali dena uss say bara gunah hay.
naam muhammad or batein jahilo jaise naam badal dal chu……….
Assalam o Alaikum!
well i dont hve any concern to this product(LAYS) or to any researcher but i am a common man living in Pakistan all my concern is that whether this flavor enhacer E631 is extracted from pig’s fat or not? i think being a company’s employee u r bound to defend ur company’s product but just try to earn halal rozy not haram nd if u r telling lie on ur part then you may have to face the consequences!
regards
it say e361 i.e mentioned on lays chips contains salt extracted from animals. and muslims, jews and hindus shud avoid eating this salt becoz of its origin which they cannot mention.
you talked like that HALAl stamp is stamped by KSA but remember that this stamp is authorized by the Government of the subject Country
and not by KSA and remember SLANTY HAS halal label but LAYS do not you said that you are in LAY quality control but you spelled it wrong?
what you got by lying?
BE RESPONSIBLE
lays iz not haram .. if it iz then y using in saudi arabia n middle east..
YOU HAVE SO MANY MISSPELLINGS THAT I CANT BELIEVE THAT A SO REPUTED COMPANY HAD HIRED YOUR DUTIES???/
and i dont make a salam to you as you started with slamz and not with Salam on what and what you will have excuses dear, go and check it youself
i am not a quality supervisor but am a Lab Tachnician and its clearly proved that neither Cow, Buffalo, goat, deer, Camel, Fish, Rabbit, Duck, Hen etc (meant Halal Animals) fat has such a quality that is present in the LAYS why pepsi is marketing it in Pakistan when it is not its product like 7up remember 7up is a german Company’s Product named FIDO DIDO and its the only softdrink available out there without caffiene and tartrazine and benzoic acid
while every other soft drink actually becomes a hard drink when any of these three chemical becomes its ingredient.
Carbonated Water is antioxidant and so could be used as medicine.
while PIG could never be HALAL and i personally do not agree with those Molvis who for their personal benifits say that Alchohol and Pigs meat (PORK) is useable as life saving drug (La haula wala Quwwa ta iLLAH Billah)
Allah says “he hasn’t put remedy for any disease in prohibited items”
in urdu
“Allah Ta`ala nay kisi Haram cheez main Shifa nahin Rakhi”
aur jahan tak baat hay Lays ki
Main nain jab say suna hay tab say hi khana chorr diya hay kiun kay chahay yeh halal ho ya haram ab Mashkook ho chukki hay
aur Nabi Akram SAWW ka farman hay
“jis cheez ka tumhen yaqeen ho usay lay lo aur jo shay tumhen shak main mubtila karay usay chorr do”
So request to All reading this just for lays now become MASHKOOK stop eating it
eat SLANTY with a Pakistan’s Govt Approved Stamp of HALAL and not of HILAL remember this difference too their next attack will be something like this
and most of you now know the reallity
May Allah Bless All those who found are trying to find the Right Path (Sirat-e- Mustaqeem)
and May Allah estonish all those who are having eyes on Muslim Ummah’s Faith
TAKE CARE
OF YOU AND
ALL
AROUN YOU
ALLAH HAFIZ
Zaheer pa g,
Kamal kar diya yar aap ne tu. Aisa tu kisi ne b nai likh is topic par. I m fully agreed wid u.
Thanks for providing such a useful information to all pakistanis.
Thanks once again.
May ALLAH
Zaheer pa g,
Kamal kar diya yar aap ne tu. Aisa tu kisi ne b nai likh is topic par. I m fully agreed wid u.
Thanks for providing such a useful information to all pakistanis.
Thanks once again.
May ALLAH show us the right path.
Aamin Sum aamin.
Salam Dear Mohammad Zaheer Brother,
I am so happy about that you have given the most useful information about the topic (Eating Lays Chips is haram) and I pray that ALLAH keep you well and healthy and try to share more useful information with your Muslim brothers and sisters.
Regards,
Abdullah Makhdum
abdullahmakhdum92@yahoo.com
Lays is produced in Pakistan by MUSLIM employees who make the potato chips in VEGETABLE OIL. The company has confirmed that E631 used in Lays is obtained from Cassava PLANT and is CERTIFIED by CENTRAL ISLAMIC COMMITTEE AND JAMIA ASHRAFIA as 100% HALAL. Pakistan Council of Scientific & Industrial Research (PCSIR), an established Government body has also verified that Lays contains ONLY Vegetable Oils. See “HALAL” seal on its pack. Inform our Muslim brothers who are misinformed. Wassalam
If you write halal on vine bottle. does it make it halal?
And i believe these multinational companies doesnt have enough time to extract this E631 from plants, to make it halal for muslims. That sounds funnyyyyyyyyyyy. kamal you must be working in lay’s company.<———- Thats good, atleast you are namak halal not haram.
Aoa I want to share some facts about lays chips
I found E631 used in lays is not pig fat, just follow this link and it is helpful for all of us..
I have received a number of forwarded emails regarding E631 being present in the Lays Masala which is a product of Pepsi. It is highlighted that E631 is produced from pig fat.
Some googling tell that E631 can be generated in 3 different ways:
1. It can be obtained from sardines (fish).
2. It can be made from brewer yeast extract which is a by-product of beer making process.
3. It can be extracted from pig meat.
If method #1 is used then it is Halal. If method #2 is used then it is not Haram but it is better to avoid it. However if method #3 is used then most certainly it is Haram.
Thanks
Ahmed
Wateen Telecom
ahmed786_2000@hotmail.com
aoa all i would to something about lays
I found E631 used in lays is not pig fat, just follow this link and it is helpful for all of us..
Some googling tell that E631 can be generated in 3 different ways:
1. It can be obtained from sardines (fish).
2. It can be made from brewer yeast extract which is a by-product of beer making process.
3. It can be extracted from pig meat.
If method #1 is used then it is Halal. If method #2 is used then it is not Haram but it is better to avoid it. However if method #3 is used then most certainly it is Haram.
So Please U people gathered correct information then spread it
Ahmed
Wateen Telecom Lahore
ahmed786_2000@hotmail.com
kia hal hain sab k janab lays chips main aisa kuch nahi paya jata jaisa k log samjhtay hain alhumdullilah sab muslman hain r aisi koi baat nahi ha k is main pig fat jaisi koi cheez paye jati ha is liay bagair tahkek k haram kahna najjaiez bat ha.
aoa all i would to something about lays
I found E631 used in lays is not pig fat, just follow this link and it is helpful for all of us..
Some googling tell that E631 can be generated in 3 different ways:
1. It can be obtained from sardines (fish).
2. It can be made from brewer yeast extract which is a by-product of beer making process.
3. It can be extracted from pig meat.
If method #1 is used then it is Halal. If method #2 is used then it is not Haram but it is better to avoid it. However if method #3 is used then most certainly it is Haram.
So Please U people gathered correct information then spread it
Ahmed saeed
Wateen Telecom Lahore
ahmed786_2000@hotmail.com
(good info for all of you),
Firstly please bycotte Lays.Following are 2 facts FYI..Please read.
Today is 16-May and you can see Daily Jhang (Page#12). there is one news by the presentator of Jamia Ashrafia, he said ” aik chips company nay Jamia Ashrafia kay mashroot fatway ko apnay haq men matlaqan istalmal kia hay jo keh darust nahi hay. Hamara fatwa is bat par mashroot hay keh Lays me koi haram ajza shamil ya istamal nahi huway to halal hay”.
so it is decided that Lays team is speaking lie as showed on front page of daily jhang by Lays team that “Lays ingridiants are approved by Jamia Ashrafia means Halal ingridiants”.
Above is 1st lie.
2nd lie is Fariha who is disappeared from a long time. if she spoke turth then she must prove us facts.
SO BYCOTTE LAYS…………………..
Thanks
Anis Ahmad Janjua
anis.janjua@hotmail.com
for any conflict, do contact with me….
dont b disapoint sweatheart ,just call me on 03216932175 for detail and more anthing u need
salam
Mss Fariha plz can u tell me something about e631pigfat
it mean that product in which use kindally plz tell me quick on my mail address or on my cell number bcz one person saying me that is product is not valid which used in lays chips and i m saying to that is valid so plz plz plz plz plz plz tell me quick
my mail address wish2sahil@yahoo.com
my cell number 03466606878
Your chips quality is going down day by day. previously it were so tasty & from fresh potatoes but now all burned chips are in packet which are uneatable. Kindly look in the matter seriously.
i wanna tell u that the lays is not haraam because E631 they are using is extracted from a plant called tapioca .E631 is certified by the supplier, as well as the Central Islamic Committee of Thailand, to be Halal.
you just cannot be sure
Dear Fariha,
Firstly you are not looking like from Quality Assurance department of Lays because you have even written the name of the company wrongly. You are claiming to be from QA department and you even don’t know your company name.
Secondly this is not only for Muslims. All the religions prohibit using pig fats for edible products.
Thanks
kaleem
if e361 not converted in any other form so it is haram
OOTH PASTE,
SHAVING CREAM
CHEWING GUM,
CHOCOLATE,
SWEETS,
BISCUITS,
CORN FLAKES, TOFFEES,
CANNED FOODS,
FRUIT TINS,
have PIG FATS in them as ingredients.
This is shown in the form of E-Codes printed on the packs of such products. So we must try to avoid items with the following E Codes:
E100, E110, E120, E 140, E141, E153, E210, E213, E214, E216, E234, E252,E270, E280, E325, E326, E327, E334, E335, E336, E337, E422, E430, E431, E432, E433, E434, E435, E436, E440, E470, E471, E472, E473, E474, E475,E476, E477, E478, E481, E482, E483, E491, E492, E493, E494, E495, E542,E570, E572, E631, E635, E904.
How it could be pig fat we eat it we cat no taste it
Salam,
Dear Fariha,
We are practising muslims or not, thats a seprate issue.
If you are in lay pakistan, you just confirm that is there any pig fat in lays?
Regards,
Khawaja Asif Naeem
Sir plz SEND me PDF/JPG
according to ur..
“”””I am pleased to inform all of you that, PEPSI Cola International had replied to this issue couple of weeks back. E631 used in Lays masla is halal and i have few documents/certificates from PEPSI cola which they sent to Mr. Akhlaq Ahmad showing that lays masla contains Halal E631 duly certified by their supplier.
Unfourtunately i also don’t know how to place JPG/PDF file with this comment.
Any one help me, so i can place all the certificates over here.”””
i wana see this all
e-mail is maliknoman4@yahoo.com
+92-314-505-501-4
Salam, Would you like to send me those certificates? My e-mail is rosebizz@hotmail.com
Best regards
(good info for all of you,
Firstly please bycotte Lays.Following are 2 facts FYI..Please read.
Today is 16-May and you can see Daily Jhang (Page#12). there is one news by the presentator of Jamia Ashrafia, he said ” aik chips company nay Jamia Ashrafia kay mashroot fatway ko apnay haq men matlaqan istalmal kia hay jo keh darust nahi hay. Hamara fatwa is bat par mashroot hay keh Lays me koi haram ajza shamil ya istamal nahi huway to halal hay”.
so it is decided that Lays team is speaking lie as showed on front page of daily jhang by Lays team that “Lays ingridiants are approved by Jamia Ashrafia means Halal ingridiants”.
Above is 1st lie.
2nd lie is Fariha who is disappeared from a long time. if she spoke turth then she must prove us facts.
SO BYCOTTE LAYS…………………..
Thanks
Anis Ahmad Janjua
anis.janjua@hotmail.com
Dear Fariha,
Good to know that you are in Quality Assurance department in LAYS Pakistan. Its nice to see your comments and reply against the “HOAX”, but we will appreciate if you could show (just for the satisfaction of the people) IFF approved certificate which is certified and checked by Saudi Govt and in which it is mentioned that ingrediants using in LAYS are 100% HALAL and there is no PORK FAT using in it.
As you said in your POST that you are an Executive in Quality Assurance department in LAYS Pakistan, then you must have a SOLID proof regarding this HOAX, RIGHT? A Quality Executive does not look good commenting just on the basis of Assumptions or comments like “as per my knowledge” etc etc, you should show a SOLID proof to eradicate this misconception.
One more and important thing needs to be cleared. What does the code E631 mean ? why it is printed back side of the wrapper of LAYS? What kind of essence or ingrediants are reffered thru this Code?
Being a Quality Executive of LAYS Pakistan, only you can satisfy us all wit solid evidences and proofs.
I shall be glad if you could help people of Pakistan in such a HOT issue, because LAYS is so much popular specially in the Children of Pakistan and atleast I wont allow my child if I wont satisfy.
Regards
Imran
AOA
Can anybody tell me the email/contact information of Dr. Amjad Khan author of the article on Pig Fat.
I shal be very thankful.
Regards,
Sohail
Dear Sohail,
Please note his email id adkhan69@hotmail.com
the internet has plenty of knowledge on it all it took me was one google search to prove that all your findings are incorrect
E631 is nothing but artificial salt want proof?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disodium_inosinate
next time before trying to get more traffic to your blog and posting crap like this use your head 😛
Mr. Ruhaan I am glad to see that unlike other ppl someone is actually using their head. I did chk the link and guess what I found on google as you recommended.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_E631_Halal
so please next time you make a comment like “use your head ” just think about this:
” It is nice to be important but it is MORE IMPORTANT to be NICE”
Nothing personal just a thought I would like to share among humanity
Allah Hafiz.
by the way MR. RUHAAN, i feel sorry for you as ” E-631 ” is not only the name of pig fat, as this is a cose so it can be allotted to anything. it also mite b possible that it is also allotted to a salt as per your investigation so my dear u shud better think before you act and remember never to b sanguine as this is a very serious issue and we need to solve it with patience…………………………… i hop u r gettin wat m sayin…….
its not incorrect. the link u have given…plz read that whole paragraph.. last line of first paragraph is “it mainly found in fish and pigs”……..fuck u.heheheLAYS IS HARAM BABYYYYYY…………
ASSALAMUALAIKUM
I M THNKNG N SRCHING ON LAYS CHIPS WHTHR ITS HARAM OR NOT BUT USING FUK WORD IS FOR SURE HARAM.
SO WATCH UR WORDS B4 U R IN FAVOR OF SMTHNG N PRCTS IT.
Dear Ruhaan,
Thanks for the info, I would also have seen this on wikipedia, but I want to see the proofs from Miss Fariha, because as she said that IFF approved this which is stamped and verified by Saudi Govt. I have a strong belief on Saudi govt rather than wikipedia.
Regards
Imran
LOL.. ruhaan you are right.
salam!
ruhaan.u r rite it is a salt but the thing is this salt is present in animalz fat.and E361z salt origin is actually from E360 salt.
wana no.check this outa.
http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm
Please consult this site for all Halal/haram info on “E-codes”:
http://www.guidedways.com/halalfoodguide.php
E631 can be extracted from cow, fish or pig so it is not clear which version of E631 does LAYS contain. May be it is extracted from cows!?
Anyone from LAYS care to confirm?
Assalamo alaikum.
All muslims specially pakistani muslims must stopped the food items of europe and western countries. what are the ingredients of their food items such as lays chips. butter, curd, chocolates and dry and packed milk. why we use their these items. we muslims are making them rich to promote their food items. pepsi is haram too for muslims, because a special eliment of the pigs stomack use to make it, while we drink it and we get exihiliration. so plz i reauest to all muslims plz plz stopped that.
Aslam Alikum To All of You
Dear fariha humayun
You are in Quality Assurance department in LAYS Pakistan.
I would inform you that I am fond of Lays Chips Cheese flavour but after
this fact is disclosed i will completely stop its consumption insha ALLAH
because being a muslim Its my primary obligation to avoid these edibles which
are suspicious This what our beloved religion says to us I want you to see the the letter below which is written to
“The General Manager,
Pepsi Cola International,
413-Sundar Industrial Estate,
Sundar Raiwind Roa.d, Lahore”
by
Akhlaq Ahmed
AkhlaQ. ahmad@svedbhais.com
CEO / Business Manager T&D,
SBL, Rep of GE USA,
200-Ferozpur Road, Lahore
Phone Off: 42 753 8602
Phone Res 42 682 0209
Cell 333 408 3004
about this sensitive issue but no response from the concern person this
clearly demonstrate the fact that there is somthing wrong with the Flavour
Enhancer E631 the copy of the letter will be provided to you if you ask
if Pepsi Cola International is serious enough to prove them about this allegation bring the issue on the record prove what the fact is i wish you do that and i again start enjoying lays
Regars Naveed Essani
Dear All,
After I sent a mail that there is no such writing on Lays as claimed in the below mail, some one indicated that the matter is related to Lays Masala as per original mail. I followed up and tried to track this. I found that this Lays Masala indicates the prohibited E631 on it. I wrote a letter to GE Pepsi Cola International, manufacturer of this Lays product. Attached is the copy of my letter but he never replied. His name is Kh. Abdullah and his office number is 92-42-5298476. He never replied to me on this issue. In this context I am now sure that Lays includes prohibited versions of ingredients and I request that it must be boycotted.
Let’s boycott LAYS and distribute this information to all others.
Best Regards,
Akhlaq Ahmad
Business Manager T&D
Syed Bhais (Pvt) Ltd
92 333 408 3004
(good info for all of you),
Firstly please bycotte Lays.Following are 2 facts FYI..Please read.
Today is 16-May and you can see Daily Jhang (Page#12). there is one news by the presentator of Jamia Ashrafia, he said ” aik chips company nay Jamia Ashrafia kay mashroot fatway ko apnay haq men matlaqan istalmal kia hay jo keh darust nahi hay. Hamara fatwa is bat par mashroot hay keh Lays me koi haram ajza shamil ya istamal nahi huway to halal hay”.
so it is decided that Lays team is speaking lie as showed on front page of daily jhang by Lays team that “Lays ingridiants are approved by Jamia Ashrafia means Halal ingridiants”.
Above is 1st lie.
2nd lie is Fariha who is disappeared from a long time. if she spoke turth then she must prove us facts.
SO BYCOTTE LAYS…………………..
Thanks
Anis Ahmad Janjua
anis.janjua@hotmail.com
Dear Friends…
Check this link of wikianswers too..http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_E631_Halal.
E631 are generally produced from meat, but partly also from fish. They are thus not suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in most cases not suitable for Jews, Muslims and Hindus, depending on the origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information on the origin. [Source: http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm%5D
The E631 also known as Sodium inosinate is produced from a variety of sources . It can also be produces using the sugar as per my knowledge. So if the origin of this flavor enhancer is pig fat than it is really very disturbing indeed.
Also i could not find the code E631 of the site mentioned. http://www.guidedways.com/halalfoodguide.php
Only the producer can provide us with the information.
Please visit this website for information regarding ingredients.
http://www.fritolay.com/lays/index.html
E-Numbers List
The following is a list of products containing animal by-products, such as animal fat, gelatine and fatty acids (fats). It is by no means certain that they are Haraam. Only Allah (SWT) knows, and may we be guided by Him. It is better to avoid products these e-numbers, as there is doubt about them.
E No. Description Notes
COLOURS
E120 Cochineal (red colour) from scale insects
E140 Chlorophyll fatty acids & others
E141 Copper phaeophytins from chlorophyll
PRESERVATIVE
E252 Potassium Nitrate waste animal & vegetable material
EMULSIFIERS
E422 Glycerol (Glycerine) from soaps & fatty acids
430 Polyoxyethelene stearate fatty acid molecules
431 Polyoxyethelene stearate fatty acids
433 Polysorbate 80 oleic esters of sorbitol
E470 Sodium salts of soap fatty acids
E471 Glyceryl Monostearate from glycerin & fatty acid
E472a Acetic esters of fatty acids esters of glycerol & acetic acid
E472b Lactic esters of fatty acids esters of glycerol & lactic acid
E472c Citric esters of fatty acids esters of glycerol & citric acid
E472d Tartaric esters of fatty acids esters of glycerol & tartaric acid
E472e Acetyltartaric esters of fatty acids esters of glycerol & tartaric acid
E473 Sucrose esters esters of glycerol & sucrose
E474 Sucroglycerides from lard
E475 Polyglycerol esters of fatty acids
476 Polyglycerol polyricinoleate castor oil & glycerol esters
E477 Propylene glycol esters propylene glycol
478 Lactylated glycerol esters glycerol esters & lactic acid
491 Sorbitan monostearate stearic acid and sorbitol
492 Sorbitan Tristearate stearic acid
E494 Sorbitan mono-oleate from oleic acid
542 Edible bone phosphate steam-extract from animal bones
ANTI-CAKING AGENTS
570 Stearic acid fatty acid in animal fats & veg oils
572 Magnesium stearate stearic acid
FLAVOURINGS
631 Sodium 5_inosinate meat extract & dried sardines
635 Sodium 5_ribonucleotide meat extract & dried sardines
904 Shellac resin by lac insect
Additives or ingredients, which have not been allocated EEC numbers and may be derived from non-halal sources, are :
Edible / Animal fat or oil
Gelatin / gelatine
Enzymes of catalase, lipase, pepsin, trypsin, rennin (or rennet)
SO……….CAN WE EAT LAYS ARE U GUYS SURE THERE IS PIG FAT IN LAYS!!!!???
aoa to all
dear muslims i just want to ask one simple question from u all. being a muslime cant we give up eating lays i sure if u will avoid eating it u will not die. there are many other chips out there in market u dont u try those
Whether pig fat or animal fat. If the cow or any other animal is not slaughtered in a proper way, I think its fat is also haram. So please comment whether the chemical agents and raw materials are imported or manufactured in Pakistan
assalam alaikum!
i read a big argue over the issue of E631 pig fat as an ingredient in lays chips on being informed through a text message. if havent been acknowledged through that i would have been eating a HARAM product so keenly. cant we just persist ourself from eating lays instead of arguing over it, since it has a big big cause behind it ? i think if youre a true Muslim (or even just a Muslim) you should leave using such products.
“would you like to eat PIG’S FAT anymore?”
Kiran u r rite now the q is that can we eat it or not. but on the above one of my brother write that it is certified & checked by the Saudi Govt & it is 100% halal. what whould u say on that……………………………?
Walikumus salam !
As for ur information i won’t eat this haram product again.
WASALAM
Abdul Momin
rocky_edwardian@yahoo.com
Dear Friends
No QA person of lays can confirm the status of E 631 ,wether it is from halal origin or not. Only the manufacturer can confirm the origin of E 631, or it may be analysed in a well equipped lab that is not present in our country. If the Saudi Govt. confirmed E 631 as halal ingredient( the batch they analysed ),that is not the guarantee for every batch, the origin of E 631can be changed from batch to batch.
So that, leave the products which are not confirmed halal, and enjoy homemade chips and fries with confirmed halal ingredients especially with good quality oil, for which we are not thinking.
it is a very serious matter……
so we have to take any action…..
its my request to the owner of this blog…..plz send me a e-mail related to this…..so i can pass on to evry person who is in my contact….
we must try to use house made things….
thnx…
I found below mention information from this website: http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm………And I am not satisfy with this……..There is something wrong thats y they print the information in CODES that is E631…Please read the below infor:
E631 : Sodium inosinate
Origin:
Sodium salt of inosinic acid (E630), a natural acid, that is mainly present in animals. Commercially prepared from meat or fish (sardines). May also be produced by bacterial fermentation of sugars.
Function & Characteristics:
Flavour enhancer. Inosinic acid and inosinates do not have the specific umami taste but strongly enhance many other flavours, thereby reducing the amounts of salt or other flavour enhancers needed in a product.
Products:
Used in many products.
Acceptable daily intake (ADI):
None determined. Inosinates may not be used in products intended for children under 12 weeks.
Side effects:
Asthmatic people should avoid inosinates. As inosinates are metabolised to purines, they should be avoided by people suffering from gout. However, the concentrations used are generally so low that no effects are to be expected.
Dietary restrictions:
Inosinates are generally produced from meat, but partly also from fish. They are thus not suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in most cases not suitable for Jews, Muslims and Hindus, depending on the origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
I think all of us should be clear on this that this is not suitable for our Kids……Even I saw a wrapper of POTATO CHIPS E631 also included in this……..WOW in a muslim country we bring HARAM food for our childrens…..
After this hoax, I’m sure a new competitor of Lays will be in Pakistan having name like “Halal Chips”, “Momin Chips”, “Mecca Chips”, “Kaaba Chips” etc who will be shamefully copying Lays and using EXACTLY the same ingredients Lays uses. These hoax-makers haven’t spared any multinational brand. KFC, McDonalds, Pepsi, Coca Cola etc. Either they “contains pigs” or “owned by Jews and all their income goes to Israel”. I’m sure such false news are created & spread by the local brands who want to compete with these multinational brands but don’t have ability to compete in quality.
Dear Mr Arslan, why you r so worried for the international brands and their local competitors. If this is true those brands and their officials should argue the matter with proof not the consumers.
Presently a dobut about the the LAYS has been occured and being a muslim till that clarification of this issue from the manufacturar we should avoid the controversial product (LAYS).
As you tried to proove in your message this may be the business stratigy of some local upcoming competator bout on the other side this may not be so. So I think that rather than being the party in this matter we should simlpy avoid this product and wait for some solid proof from the PEPSI. Let them do their job they should be more worried about their sales. Slam
well said mr. junaid iqbal
A correction: Not shamefully, but shamelessly.
The General Manager,
Pepsi Cola International,
413-Sundar Industrial Estate,
Sundar Raiwind Road, Lahore
Subject: Clarification required for Lays Products
Dear Sir,
I tried to directly talk to you regarding a mail from one of my friend but failed to connect. In fact I need a clarification for using certain additives in your Lays products. My kids, like millions others, are using these products keeping in view the excellent quality that you have proved for last many years and the confidence that we have due to the tacit hygiene factor.
I have received an email, spread around, and I then bought your Lays-Masala product from the market. It has stated under the subject Ingredients that it includes flavor enhancer (E627, E631) of which E631 is found in the prohibited list of additives declared at various web sites claiming these additives to have pig fats. This situation is not only alarming but also a threat to our belief (Eeman). Would you please explain me the situation by a return mail or letter or call so that I can use these products further as well or else. In addition such mails spread around must be addressed before it can give rise to confusions and problems among the customers.
A prompt response shall be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Akhlaq AHMAD
Akhlaq.ahmad@syedbhais.com
CEO / Business Manager T&D,
SBL, Rep of GE USA,
200-Ferozpur Road, Lahore
Phone Off: 42 753 8602
Phone Res 42 682 0209
Cell 333 408 3004
that’s great!!!!!!!
asalam o alaikum
i want to ask that is the pig fat is only in masala chips or in every lays product
and in how many chips of different companies had pig fat how could we come to know that this chips had pig fat we cant remember many codes
but any how that’s not good
many childern eat lays awafully 😦 i m feeling too bad that it happend in Pakistan ashamed
I’ve come to know about E Codes nd i’ve also read about all the argues which you are sending to us as far as wat i’ve got that if fariha was concered and if she had the solid proves about the Halal or Haram she would definateliy inform us about that but her mysterious silense asure us that “Dal ma kuch Kala hai”
so I request all muslim that please avoid taking these products. I my self was a crazy fan of Lays but now Inshallah I’ll never take this again. and i also dont let to eat this in my presence and I’ll inform every one that wat it actually has.
Mr. Arsalan SHAME ON YOU…..How SHAMELESSLY you are favoring INFIDELS….You must be ashamed of your character as well…. I will second to Kiran that: “cant we just persist ourselves from eating lays instead of arguing over it, since it has a big big cause behind it? I think if you are a true Muslim (or even just a Muslim) you should leave using such products.”
Dear all,
the issue is that we Muslims are just acting like deaf and blind .. its just a chips.. if it is a rumor fine there must be some authenticity behind it or there must be any thing behind that.. so why we cant stop lays chips… its just a chips.. remember we have to die one day and on the day of judgment it will be ask by ourselves knowing the facts or we r not sure about but still we have to stop such things..
so my msg is to jus stop eating these types things..we will not die without them..
Please wake up and take a step..
It is our responsibility to inform all others.
E631 : Sodium inosinate
Origin:
Sodium salt of inosinic acid (E630), a natural acid, that is mainly present in animals. Commercially prepared from meat or fish (sardines). May also be produced by bacterial fermentation of sugars.
Function & Characteristics:
Flavour enhancer. Inosinic acid and inosinates do not have the specific umami taste but strongly enhance many other flavours, thereby reducing the amounts of salt or other flavour enhancers needed in a product.
Products:
Used in many products.
Acceptable daily intake (ADI):
None determined. Inosinates may not be used in products intended for children under 12 weeks.
Side effects:
Asthmatic people should avoid inosinates. As inosinates are metabolised to purines, they should be avoided by people suffering from gout. However, the concentrations used are generally so low that no effects are to be expected.
Dietary restrictions:
Inosinates are generally produced from meat, but partly also from fish. They are thus not suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in most cases not suitable for Jews, Muslims and Hindus, depending on the origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
E631 : Sodium inosinate
Origin:
Sodium salt of inosinic acid (E630), a natural acid, that is mainly present in animals. Commercially prepared from meat or fish (sardines). May also be produced by bacterial fermentation of sugars.
Function & Characteristics:
Flavour enhancer. Inosinic acid and inosinates do not have the specific umami taste but strongly enhance many other flavours, thereby reducing the amounts of salt or other flavour enhancers needed in a product.
Products:
Used in many products.
Acceptable daily intake (ADI):
None determined. Inosinates may not be used in products intended for children under 12 weeks.
Side effects:
Asthmatic people should avoid inosinates. As inosinates are metabolised to purines, they should be avoided by people suffering from gout. However, the concentrations used are generally so low that no effects are to be expected.
Dietary restrictions:
Inosinates are generally produced from meat, but partly also from fish. They are thus not suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in most cases not suitable for Jews, Muslims and Hindus, depending on the origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
JAZAKLLAH……………
hmen ase he aware krte raha kren…..
esi informations news papers mein b deni chaeay…..
aoa to all muslims plzzzzzz jst stop commenting on this issue ….jst open sahi bukhari (ahadees ki kitab) and read (mafhum) agar hamen khane ki ksi b chez k bare men shak he k vo halal he ya haram to allah khte hen k js chez men tme shak he use chor kar vo chezen khaen js men shak nai he………….i m ashamd of pakstani gvrmnt……..jb allah mana kr re hen to phr ksi chez ki gunjaish nai………….
THTs a +ve point.
so conclusion is this that we must leave this kind of product, becuase
” Jis Cheeze may Shak o Shuba Mojood ho osay na khana he bahter hai…”
we must care our beliefs and don’t compromise on it.
specially when Dr. fariha humayun is silent………….
i get this detail form this URL : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disodium_inosinate
Disodium inosinate (E631), chemical formula C10H11N2Na2O8P, is the disodium salt of inosinic acid. It is a food additive often found in instant noodles, potato chips, and a variety of other snacks. It is used as a flavor enhancer, in synergy with monosodium glutamate (also known as MSG; the sodium salt of glutamic acid) to provide the umami taste.
In the US, comsumption of added 5′-ribonucleotides averages 4 mg per day, compared to 2 g per day of naturally occuring purines. A review of literature by an FDA committee found no evidence of carcinogenicity, teratogenicity, or adverse effects on reproduction.[1]
As it is a fairly expensive additive, it usually is not used independently of glutamic acid; if disodium inosinate is present in a list of ingredients but MSG does not appear to be, it is possible that glutamic acid is provided as part of another ingredient or is naturally occurring in another ingredient like tomatoes, Parmesan cheese or yeast extract. It is often added to foods in conjunction with disodium guanylate; the combination is known as disodium 5′-ribonucleotides.
i am absolutely agree with u UJALA
friends i also wana say that the matter is about HAAl and HAram of the imported products. and i think its true because all these international products are not made for us (muslims) so how we can say that they are 100% halal for us
i think we can live without these products
and this not just for lays u should be concious about every international product specialy those that is imported from jews or hindus countries. so plz i request u to stop using such products
and one thing every arguement never has a solid reason or prove like if some one ask us to give proof that ALLAH is one and where is?
i think we have no proof for this
so heartidly beleive on it and stop using bcoz such product after knowing about it is not good.
and if we see that if we use our homemade products that definately it will be benefitted for Pakistan.
no matter that y people used to spread about such products either for information or to grow the local industry. we just have to believe on it as a muslim
be united and make strong our Islam
Allah bless u all and jahan rhen khush rhen
This news was based on truth because,before some years a ISLAMIC WEEKLY news paper named ZHARB-e-MOMIN,informed us before few years…….unfortunately all the muslims are in deep deep sleeping,they refused these types of news like mr.ARSALAN………now we are still refusing like name mention above
hi I amFahad Haroon
i will back to akmal there are thousands of chip why we eat only lay as there are very comment they all are not mad saying that i think if we stop eating lays then i am sure that lays will improve thier qulities
thank!!!
I AGREE WITH FAHAD BUT UNFORTUNATELY ITS IMPOSSIBLE!
THANKS
THAT YOU INFORM US ABOUT THIS SUCH A BIG REALITY. I MUST PASSED THIS. AND REQUESTING TO ALL THAT CONVEY THIS MSG TO OTHERS THAT WE USE GOOD AND THAT THINGS THAT ARE USEFUL FOR MUSLIMS. THANKS
AOA, today i received a sms about E631 and i search information bout it on net and i found that there are two ways to get E631, one is from fish that is purly halal and the second way is from animal and specially from pig. If this get from pig thn its Haram but i think if its get any other Halal naimal thn i think its also Haram, becuase in Islam there is special way to kill animal specially if you want to eat it, so if they get from halal animal are they do that proper way like in Islam tells us or they use the way like christian do ????
wat is truth behind this E631??????????????????????
It is truth that e631 is the product of pig.
wat is truth?????????????/
This is true Miss Ayesha Nazir. Didn’t you read anything about LAYS?
Lays is produced in Pakistan by MUSLIM employees who make the potato chips in VEGETABLE OIL. The company has confirmed that E631 used in Lays is obtained from Cassava PLANT and is CERTIFIED by CENTRAL ISLAMIC COMMITTEE AND JAMIA ASHRAFIA as 100% HALAL. Pakistan Council of Scientific & Industrial Research (PCSIR), an established Government body has also verified that Lays contains ONLY Vegetable Oils. See “HALAL” seal on its pack. Inform our Muslim brothers who are misinformed. Wassalam
AOA all,
People shold know that these are only chips and they are completely halal. Forgodsakes people it has Halal Certified stamp on by Saudi Arabia. E631 can be extracted from cow, goat and pig fats and it can also be made as it is artificial.
Though it is not specified which one of them but as it is halal, it isn;t pig fat! That’s for sure. Nowadays the muslims hav grown very narrow-minded. I am sorry to say this but we should think twice. Try and analyze matters with a broad perspecive. We have an example of the Swat flogging. They did on the name of Sharia! Is this Sharia? I believe not. This too is an example. People the time is near, the muslims have to be cautious. Anyways I have mad my point clear.
Regards,
Ali Ahmed.
huh… Ali Ahmed you obstinate kinda vacuous clod, have you any idea that you ain’t justifying your sacred name even…. watch your short sighted, uncalculated, and stupid shots… The Muslims except you ain’t be gonna narrow-minded but they are being rightly rational…. If you trow as if you are the one with a BROAD PERSPECTIVE then I would remind you your own words THINK TWICE and even THRICE if you can…. I am not inclined towards SWAT’s Talibans but I m even more conscious about long term global maniac conspiracies… And in this LAYS case, I just wanna fight against it…. I plead to all my Muslim brothers and sisters to take practical and effective actions against Lays and the like foods… Please take out lots of prints against such foreign products, take bundles of posters against them and go paste on public places and hubs….
Ali Ahmed please don’t mingle Swat’s matter with this Lays Matter…you are yet to discover many more bitter truths around you…. before talking like the above, go take such an eye which can help you better… You are either naive or you ain’t such a person who would even bother to crave for extracting the right information from the mass roaming around in your ambients.
If you can’t stop eating these lays shits, I would suggest you to go eat pigs directly… That would be good favor to such a person like you… THANX
Mohammed Umar Bin Zahid
It is very shame full to us . How did our food inspector allow to launch such product which is not hallal for mslims did he take bribes
Assalam alaikum to all
i am shocked to hear that lays chips has e631.i am going to sue this company and i will try my best that govt of Pakistan ban this product.
Please see the Food Enhancers detail on http://www.mbm.net.au/health/620-640.htm
and I m 100% agreed with the guy saying “ONE SHOULD BOYCOTT instead ARGUING”
So save your beliefs and say GOOD BYE/GO TO HEAL to all products listed their…….
Boycott instead of arguing is much better option. Its better to boycott until you are 100% sure. According to my source in Pepsi the relevant two person department (which takes care of the formula) said that they import E631 from a company that mark it as HALAL.
This is not a valid justification. According to my understanding pepsi pakistan is also confused on what to do on this issue otherwise they should have released a press note addressing this issue. I asked my source in pepsi that why pepsi is not giving any verdict on this issue if they claim that they are right. He dont know!
Pepsi Pakistan replied on this matter. As they replied through three scanned copies.. one in jpeg format and other two in pdf format, so it was not possible to post it here.
I have uploaded the three scanned copies as sent by pepsi in a “zip” file format at the following url.
http://rapidshare.com/files/229012514/Pepsi-reply.zip.html
Thanks very much bro.
This issue ends with clarification provided by Pepsi and IFF
Halal if it is obtained from sardines.
AOA all,
People shold know that these are only chips and they are completely halal. Forgodsakes people it has Halal Certified stamp on by Saudi Arabia. E631 can be extracted from cow, goat and pig fats and it can also be made as it is artificial.
Though it is not specified which one of them but as it is halal, it isn;t pig fat! That’s for sure. Nowadays the muslims hav grown very narrow-minded. I am sorry to say this but we should think twice. Try and analyze matters with a broad perspecive. We have an example of the Swat flogging. They did on the name of Sharia! Is this Sharia? I believe not. This too is an example. People the time is near, the muslims have to be cautious. Anyways I have mad my point clear.
Regards,
Rabeet siddiqui from Gujranwala
i agree with u it might b synthetic also
AoA,
Thnx to inform abt it.i must convey it to all my friends n as well as in family.
please please please see the blow link to wrap up this
http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm
read the following by visiting the above link
“Dietary restrictions:
Inosinates are generally produced from meat, but partly also from fish. They are thus not suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in most cases not suitable for Jews, Muslims and Hindus, depending on the origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information on the origin.”
Asslam o allikum.
i read the articals on the issue. Matter is not clear at all. Some says we should consult and act on hadees which says leave the doubtful.
my personal coment (no one is bound to agree) is that. Lays is one of the current leading food company. Can it be a cheap busniss trick to fail the product…
it can be a trick.to spread such like double meanin E code. I said double meaning. I mean it. No one among us is clear. Right?
I request all please dont get emotional think n act on solid proof.
Once again i request to bring some of the Lays offical in fovram. Let them clear.
with best wishes
syed Ashir waseem
Cheah this ULR and warped tihs topic….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disodium_inosinate
BUT….
Hadees ka mafhoom hy.. (agar hamen khane ki ksi b chez k bare men shak he k vo halal he ya haram to allah khte hen k js chez men tme shak he use chor kar vo chezen khaen js men shak nai he.
being a muslim we should leave this kind of product…
Check this ULR and warped tihs topic….
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disodium_inosinate
BUT….
Hadees ka mafhoom hy.. (agar hamen khane ki ksi b chez k bare men shak he k vo halal he ya haram to allah khte hen k js chez men tme shak he use chor kar vo chezen khaen js men shak nai he.
being a Muslim we should leave this kind of product…
We have to save our country from these haram additives.E631pigfat has been used in lays and would be still used because this company has to do busines.They just keep on lyeing to us that………..but please you all who are working in lays please awake that you are not on right path.Please awake you all workers of lays you all are geting haram income,please don`t lie to us.We also have minds we know what busines and diplomatic sentenses are.E631pigfat has been used is still would be used so you all Muslims save urselves.For ALLAH`S sake.
Thankz such a nice knowledge n PROOF
dear friends,
i am a medical student in Pakistan.
i feel much pained and grieved when people say rubbish things like the one said above, there is no reality in it. i have made an extensive research on this topic. i spent whole 1 year on studying on these flavorings and preservatives. these all are prepared in laboratories artificially .
for detailed explanation feel free to contact me.
a1num@hotmail.com
but plz keep in mind while mailing, do write subject”info on food additives” so that i may know it is not a junk or spam.
This is a gud information but i want to popular ths information to all muslims
aslamu alikum..
first of all i thanx to those ppl who do this research…
then i request the ppl who are in “LAYS” (PAKISTAN) ..
they are too muslims,, they should think about this thay we all have to die..
and one day (the day of judgement) we must asked what we did in this world (dunia) which is examination haal for all of us.
and if we love to our ALLAH who is REHMAN and RAHEEEM ( there is no limit of rehmat) then we should stop eating this…
and we shoud be proactive in this era because satan and they non-muslims are the true enemies of muslims and one more who is always with us ; he is our nufas.
so i request all ppl we shoud now invest our energies to rule the islamic system of life. which is the not even best system but the Ultimate code of life.
and this could be possible only when we take over our desires and then to this world.
and all this is possible with continuous struggle and with the help of ALLAH allmighty.
—————****************************
at last i would request “MR. Rabeet siddiqui” please define the word SHARIA.
i want to put some question in front of you specificaly.
can u define it?
have you ever studies about the sharia?
have you ever listened any scholer (be practical)
have you ever researched what is matter why western world and USA are worried about the implementation of Sharia?
have you ever think why muslims are not rulling the world?
have you ever think why twin towers have fallen and they have not presented any proof but they attacked the afganistan.
Do you think all that is going on in tribal area by dron bambarment is true.
just think about this…. and try to find answers not just listening the ppl who are in western interest.
we all have to go 1400 year back but with present requirement.. we have double work to do for here and for here after
and mr. in sawat this is not sharia this is only one part whcih is very necessary and it is NAZAM-E ADAL of islam
take best care of yourself
only eat halal food which are islamic in point of view.
As every body is saying that it have hilal cetified stamp by saudi arabia.But one question Why it cant be.Now a days every one is discourging muslims.there are many other examples like denmark problem even they didnot leave our prophet…..so it can be, every thing is posibile and not other people even our muslim brothers.they dont have any idea in which direction they are moving forward.there is no thinking of GUNAH AND SAWAB.
SO SIMPLE IS THAT JUST BAYCOT THESE TYPE OF PRODUCTS.DONT USE IT.
AOA DUA HAI K ALLAH HUMAIN HARAM KHA K HARAM KARN SE BCHAEY.
KISI BI MASLAY KA HAL MUSLIMS K PAS MOJOD HAI KION K HUMARA DEEN MUKAMAL HAI. SHARAM TO IS BAT KI HAI K HUM PHR B MUKAMAL NHI HAIN.
ANYWAYS. MAIN AYESHA DAR FROM MIRPUR. KA SHUKAR GUZAR HOON K UNHOON NAY SAHI BUKHARI (AHADEES KI KITAB) KI ROSHNI MAIN HUMAIN HARAM SE BUCHNE KI SUB SE BEHTER AUR ASAAN BAAT BATAI HAI.
MAIN SUB PARHNE WALON SE REQUEST KRATA HON K AYESHA DAR FRM MIRPUR KI COMMENT MUTALIYA KRAIN.
Rabeet
You are asking everyone to cool down just cuz there is a chance that it is not from pig fat…you want blind optimism and trust. You also want everyone to cool down, cuz there is a chance that even if it wasn’t a pig, it was slaughtered in the right way.
Granted there are Halal ways to make it, but we aren’t sure they make it that way. Ever heard of Murphy’s Law?
We’re saying that there is a chance that its made from pig fat, if not in all batches, then in some its possible as well. Do you really want to take that chance? Do you care so little? This isn’t narrow mindedness for crying out loud, its taking precautions.
Honestly, kiya ho gaya he??
This isn’t about extremism, so don’t even go there. Rabeet, what you’re talking about is risk averseness vs high optimism.
So be careful before you say something.
I think we shouldn’t be paranoid either, cuz if we think that way, we’d stop eating just about everything. What we need is blunt information from the right sources. If all is well, why wont they talk to us? But at the same time, the Saudia Arabia thing has high leverage.
We all thanx to Mr.M.AMJAD KAHN to inform us about the Pig Fats in Pakistani Chips,its our releigious obligation to told every people about it.
DISCUSTING ! PLZ DONT PLY WITH EMMOTIONS OF MUSLIMS I WOULD LIKE TO ASK AUTHORITIES THAT R THEY MUSLIM??????? HOW THEY CAN PROOF THEY R MUSLIM????????
well i recieved a messege from my uncle which told me to stop eating lays as i am a big lays fan and i consume the family pack of it almost every day…
i tried to look for proof about this E chemical which is being discussed here. i think we should investigate as i did found few proofs that the source of E631 is purely from animals . i could not in any way find out that Pig is used in any kind of E631 extraction. but i did found on many websites which stated that the source is from animals like fish,insects, and Meat( just said meat not stated that Pig meat) it might be from it as in westren countries Pig is easily consumed. here is a link to a website.
and for any lays ppl if reading this, i really feel sorry for u guys as untill i am not told of the source of your E631, i am not buying any lays pack.
http://www.exploreenumbers.co.uk/E-Numbers-with-Animal-Origins.html
how it is posible
yes it is posibal
well.i receied a msg 4rm one of my friend that in the lays e631 is being used, at that spot i upon the explorer and start the research because i dont wana to send a msg with out confirmation.So i did so but i find only that it is collected 4rm the animals and specially 4rm the fish.but here it is not mentioned that the pig is used 4 this e631.but i just read that this e631 is not good 4 the Jews,Muslins and 4 thr hindu.but reason was mention there.
i also put a question there and when ever i will get the answer i will tell u peoples. but i m 80 % sure the this e631 is only stared by the competatores of lays only to enhance their selling.because any product which is used in pakistan or any Muslim country that product is first cheched by the govt that weather it is hallal or haram.i have that much arguments abt that product.but i will suggust u people not to spread such type of msg without any confirmation.
thanks
h3y guYS i wna dat the brand lays is HAllah or nt,,,,,,,
cuz i heard dat lays is made up of pig fats iz it true?,,,,
and wht iz e631 pig fat?
its very very very very bad
Being a MUSLIM we must avoid eating this….
But the question arises that what is the government of ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN doing in this matter??
Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah. that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety. This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, Allah is indeed Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
MY NAME IS TARIQ JAMAL AND I AM FROM KARACHI. ITS BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE ME AND MY FAMILY EATING “LAYS” I CAME TO KNOW ABOUT THIS TODAY, SO I REQUEST ALL THE MUSLIM TO BOYCOTT LAYS.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANKS MY FRIEND ASIF WHO INFORMED ME TO STOP EATING IT.
HOW THESE PRODUCTS ARE GROWING IN OUR COUNTRY? WHY GOVERNMENT IS NOT TAKING SERIOUS ACTION AGAINST THEM?
asalam alikum
hum jis mozo per behas kr rahay haiy os k mutabik to ma sirf itna kaho ga k ye sab BAKWAS ha ,har insan apnay prrofs da raha ha ,aik shaks ye kahta ah k ye sirf salt ha aur oska prof data ha to foran bd dosra shaks isay apnay prof say illegal sabit ker data ha,suchaye yahi ha k saudi gevormnt mukamal islam k dayray ma rah k chati ha aur is product per saudia ki certify stamp ha lihaza saudi gervormnt jis chez ko aprove ker day vo galat ho hi nai sakti,E631 sirf salt ho sakta ha ,balkay artifical salt ha vo aur vo janvaro say hasil kiya jata ha may be from fish or cow etc bt vo pig say bilkul hasil nai kiya jata ha itnan ma sure ho kyu k saudi gervomnt kici HARAM product per apna stamp nai lagaye gi lahaza hamay in fazol k affva say guraiz kerna chaye is mozo per ab behas ki koi gungaish baki nai rati
FE AMAN ALLAH
Salam,
I am surprised as well as ashmed to read all above discussion on this controvercial matter. All of my friends are, some in another way, just trying to get this issue positively. Why cant we just stop use of this nasty thing ?
if there is no proof of halal, then according to our belief, we should stop use of LAYS.
Remember friends, every one has to die and answer to GOD for his deeds. now its upto you.
Salam
Its really bad and ashamed for muslims to use these product.Its my humble request to all the muslims, Please dont use these kinds of products.America and Jews are enemies of pakistan.
I am also very thankful to Alaiwah who inform us about this issue.
Thanking you.
Regard,
now they have written E621 instead of E631….. what the hell is going on … whose telling the truth?
.hmmm all this conversation is cool about ths product of all people but the fact is we should move towards our higher management and authorities which is strongly responsible for giving permission for using these type of products if there is no department which identify HALAL or HARAM then they should built it up in Pakistan if it exist here then y such type of products r being processed n why these products r using by people
Dear All,
Now i come to know that why These “LAYS” Chips Are Really Delicious as well as So Many Pakistani And Middle East collage Girls Are mad About these Chips I Suggest to introduce some Much Kinds of other Chips in the Same Area so that the Girls Become More Happy Joy.
Sincerely. Mansoor.
AoA,…hope everybody is doing fine. Let us be straight. Nobody from LAYS has bothered responding for the issue, and nobody among us is completely satisfied with any of the justifications (that E631 is HILAL). SO
We all should better stop eating lays , rather i prefer stop consuming any of products from PEPSI CO and COCA COLA…
Nothing comes before our faith and religion.
May Allah make us all follow the right path.. Ameeen
Its very bad , the people should engaged in the produciton should be banned and declared non muslims who are doing Haram Food to innocent people.
Assalam Walaikum to all,
hey buddies if your heart not except lays so dnt think any more just bycot this product because our prophet said “agar kisi cheez ke baray main dil main koi shaq ho to usay tarak kerdo” so why r u w8ing for…?stop this stupid fighting
Thanks & Regards
Arish Ali
Head of I.T
Assalamualekum to all Muslims,
I would like to ask just a few things to all of you researching on this issue. If anyone of you is a true Muslim and had studied islam and applying all on himself what islam says then he would have no confusion about Halal and Haram. Plz make ur selves true muslims and be Practical so that no one can ask you that why should i believe you when you are yourself not applying Islamic rules in your life. Today people dont act on Islam they just Argue on Islam PLZ act on Islam and Follow the Life of Over Beloved PROPHET MUHAMMAD SAALLAAHOO ALEHI WA ALEHE WASSALLAM then you will be satisfied of each and every thing I appriciate ayesha dar from mirpur that she had given to us all a Islamic proof. and I would also like to share a Qurani aya with you all (( Mafhoom)) of this aya is that ” a eman walo tum wo q kehte ho jo tum krte nahe, beshak ALLAH ko na pasand hai wo shakhs jo wo bat kehta hai jis par wo khud amal nai kerta” it is the Mafhoom. PLZ all of you only say those words what you yourself do. Take Care Allah Hafiz
Assalamualekum to all Muslims,
I would like to ask just a few things to all of you researching on this issue. If anyone of you is a true Muslim and had studied islam and applying all on himself what islam says then he would have no confusion about Halal and Haram. Plz make ur selves true muslims and be Practical so that no one can ask you that why should i believe you when you are yourself not applying Islamic rules in your life. Today people dont act on Islam they just Argue on Islam PLZ act on Islam and Follow the Life of Over Beloved PROPHET MUHAMMAD SAALLAAHOO ALEHI WA ALEHE WASSALLAM then you will be satisfied of each and every thing I appriciate ayesha dar from mirpur that she had given to us all a Islamic proof. and I would also like to share a Qurani aya with you all (( Mafhoom)) of this aya is that ” a eman walo tum wo q kehte ho jo tum krte nahe, beshak ALLAH ko na pasand hai wo shakhs jo wo bat kehta hai jis par wo khud amal nai kerta” it is the Mafhoom. PLZ all of you only say those words what you yourself do. Take Care Allah Hafiz
Come on LAYS Staff. Why are you silent. Please reply and calrify all these doubts. If you don,t comment then we will think all these are true and there are pig contents in your product. So I’ll stop buying it untill you replied with solid proofs. Although I’ll have to listen alot from my children.
I apprititate all of your interest & work in Halal according to shariya.
I think conclusion is that any thing which has any doubt should be avoided.
Thanks
Adnan Khan
La Salle Multan
Pakistan
paluzai@gmail.com
http:\\lasalle.edu.pk
aoa to all muslims
thats gr8…………… people r being get awared ov the stuff grealy concerned wid their religion;
so…………. now E631 should be eleminated from chips and other eating stuff
and some halal contents should be added now….. as there are big chips lover…… so 4 the sake ov religion immidiate notice should be taken….
Assalam o alikum, everyone.
My name is Faizan. I am a student and belongs to a religious minded family.First a fall i thing it’s a matter of shame for muslims that we dosen’t know that what we are eating or what kind of product we are using.I thing if it dose,that lays is not halal so,it’s the responsibility of government of Pakistan to bend these products completely.and also we can’t blame our selves for this because it’s the government responsiblity and that of athority whome are responsible for what we eat.
thanks you ,
salam to all muslims.
im very thankful of those person who research on lays and provide
a hallal path to all the muslims especially Pakistani’s. i wnat to says all the net users to spread it in the shape of mail and SMS in all over the country.
Regatds.
Farhat Abbas Naz.
Asalama Laikum.
I read all the posts, in the forum, from the start, and realized, that even Muslims are not united, and they are going against each other, so how can we fight against non believers, there are culprits, present in our Muslim community as well.
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I Strongly believe that no more argument after this
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Open Sahi Bukhari (ahadees ki kitab) and read (Mafhum) “Agar humein, khaney ki kisi bhi cheez k barey main shaak hey, k wo halal hey ya haram, tu ALLAH kehtey hain, k jis cheez main tumhein shaak hey, usey choor ker wo cheezen khao, jis main shaak nahi hey”
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That’s the CONCLUSION.
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Aoa
Dear Miss Fariha,
Madam if you are QA in lays.then you must verify this sensitive issue.take action about this action.
Dear All,
i have read all your comments and i am agreeing to the fact that Lays Staff themselves dont have a clue what is that E631 ingrediant consist of and they are even not clearing the fact or misconsumption.
i even had a word with one of pepsi’s snacks division managers, and his view point was that it is nothing but the propagenda from Coke. cos Coke is coming up with a snacks product and wants to weaken Lays repo in the market.
But i personally think, if one is not clear that wheather its halaal or haraam to eat, then we can easily avoid this product untill we are not clear.
bless you all.
Assalam-o-alaikum
I am still confused.govt. of pakistan ne kaise aik haram product ko market me sale ki ijazat di ? kisi food instructor ne isko mention q nhi kya ? agr e631 pig fat hai to lays pakistan me tayyar hote hen or pakistan me to pigs nhi hai. phir pig fat kaise shamil karsakte hen? suidi arab ki govt ne isko halal ka certificate q dia? plz agr koi is bat ko clear karsake to I am thankful.
HEy i m with ainy for that
becoz how can the saudi govt.did that?
and where the bloody pigs are kept ?
and one other question
Is the pig material only in LAYS MASSALA becoz there is no any other type of sign on other lays?
govt. of pakistan beach main kahan sy a gai.her banda yahn milk mn pani dalta hy koi nai rokta .her chiz mn milawat hoti hy. govt k apnay maslay hoty hain like punjab ph qabza karna .apni kurci bachana.usa say pasy lyna .etc.
sub pasay ka khail hy.lets take an example Suzuki iz assembled in pak but parts r imported similarly lays is made in paksitan but ingrediants and recipes r imported .
What if I say.
“Milk Pack uses pig fat in making its cream.”
and then I say.
“My dear Muslim brothers and sisters, please stop using Milk pack cream. We are not sure if they are not using the pig fat in it or not.”
If people stop using Milk pack because of this claim of mine without a proof, will it not be a stupidity?
My dear Muslim brothers and sisters, when a certification authority has issued Halal to it and we know that E-631 can be obtained even from sugar or fish or cow and we do not have any proof that pig meat is being used to extract E-631, why are we compelling others not to use it.
Also, please check, its a chemical with a specific formula that is the same whether obtained from cow, pig, fish or sugar. If a pig drowns in the ocean and dies, do you think you should stop using water from ocean? All its contents gets dissolved in water. Do you think, you should not use the ocean water anymore? They do get dissolved but the remnants don’t act like meat or fat of a pig. Direct pig contents are HARAM because they are not good for man but not the contents that are same in the nature otherwise. I think, our Muftis should think about it and show us the correct direction.
May Allah take us to the right path and give us the ability to rectify and defend our beliefs.
pretty nice speeech mehdi.but the enlightened moderated musharaf has gone so u beter go with him.thats a very stupid example of ocean.
y go to ocean .lets kill a pig in ur water tank .vil u drink the water then?
May Allah take us to the right path and give us the ability to rectify and defend our beliefs.
pig ke samandar me mar jane se uska pani napak nahi hota hey. kyuki islam me kaha he ki behta huva pani paak hey. miya misal thik diya karo.
allah talla ne agar kisi bhi chiz ko haram kaha hey matlab wo chiz 100 percent haram hey.fir wo chiz ki koi bhi item halal nahi ho sakti. so dont argue again allah talla.
If Ms.Fariha is quality executive in quality assurance department in lay pakistan then why she not proof that this code is right or not ?and tell us that is pig fat in it or not?its easy for her ..
I am surprised and very much upset after hearing this. May ALLAH forgive me for eating haram.
aoa,
i just want to say that its the responsibility of the authorizing govt (govt of Pakistan). if they have allowed the Lays authorities to add E631 or any non halal item in their chips then “they” r answerable to Allah for their acts, not us but now since we are aware of it we should also try to investigate and avoid Lays.and Miss Fariha, being the representative of Lays should come up with a SOLID PROOF of Halal Lays.otherwise just stop all this “chikh chikh”, its of no use. understand….???
aoa,
i just want to say that its the responsibility of the authorizing govt (govt of Pakistan). if they have allowed the Lays authorities to add E631 or any non halal item in their chips then “they” r answerable to Allah for their acts, not us but now since we are aware of it we should also try to investigate and avoid Lays.and Miss Fariha, being the representative of Lays should come up with a SOLID PROOF of Halal Lays.otherwise just stop all this “chikh chikh”, its of no use. understand….???
just proove ur self RIGHT
my name is absar ali im therteen years old kia mein lays chips kha sakta hun please answer me
no
my god i cant believe that
lays is not my fav bt my sis loves it. this is 100 percent the tactic of jews to spoil our beliefs. thanks to all of you for such a useful information
It better to eat the chip made by ur selves else buying that which have such type of dout. try to make ur chips us self at home it is fresh and good for health reather then that which you et in dout..
hey i just viewed that all pig related stuff!
as i m not in the field of research therefore this news is pinching me out .
can any ony of you give me the detail about this all?
is that a rumor like sms charges , 5ps per sms =P
E631 : Sodium inosinate
Origin:
Sodium salt of inosinic acid (E630), a natural acid, that is mainly present in animals. Commercially prepared from meat or fish (sardines). May also be produced by bacterial fermentation of sugars.
Function & Characteristics:
Flavour enhancer. Inosinic acid and inosinates do not have the specific umami taste but strongly enhance many other flavours, thereby reducing the amounts of salt or other flavour enhancers needed in a product.
Products:
Used in many products.
Acceptable daily intake (ADI):
None determined. Inosinates may not be used in products intended for children under 12 weeks.
Side effects:
Asthmatic people should avoid inosinates. As inosinates are metabolised to purines, they should be avoided by people suffering from gout. However, the concentrations used are generally so low that no effects are to be expected.
Dietary restrictions:
Inosinates are generally produced from meat, but partly also from fish. They are thus not suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in most cases not suitable for Jews, Muslims and Hindus, depending on the origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
Aslam O Alaikum,
Dear All,
I have searched the internet regarding the halal and haram additives and found that according to http://www.ehalal.org E631 is a Halal Food Product. There is no harm in using Lays as the additive is Halal. Your are all requested to please visit that site for the ready reference. Further we should explore any issue before getting to a final decision.
Regrds,
Babar
I think muslims in Pakistan are wastin their energies in worng direction. Instead of blaming others and conspiracy theories why dont we just correct ourselves. Whe cant there be a single company in Pakistan which can provide quality food. Why dont you focus on corrupt beurocrats, criminal President, Electricity Production, Dams, development, education, health, etc etc etc. We would talk, argue, fight, die for religion….anything but would never live it.
hello everybody again,
i went to market to see for my self if this e631 is present on the back of the lays pack and i did not found this chemicals name on the back, it had E621 instead. well i thought maybe lays ppl have changed the name and printed this as the rumor of the pig meat and stuff. so i went to an uncle in my family who knows the lays ppl in the factory, so after 2 days i have this insight news tht they never had this E631 written on the back of there pack in the ingredients. so i guess who ever started this rumor should stop it and ppl start eating lays again as it was a total misguided rumor started by some competitor…
AOA
My dear muslim brothers and sisters i am so shocked and so dishearted to know about this all E-631 incident in LAYS and well i have been reading all the above blogs and i have to agree with (ainy) and (Muhammad mehdi) and the explainition they provided and its really not fair because if a product is manufactured in pakistan then it is bound to follow the rules and regulations of our country and our religion prefrences and bottom line is that its the job of the Govt. and the company officials to look at this matter and we are just mare consumer of this product and all the GUNNAH wil be on there heads and they will burn in JAHANUUM for that if they dont take this issue serious because all over pakistan there is a HYPE being created and people are really getting disturbed.
I think it is clear that it can be derived from HALAAL sources as well and also it is certified as HALAAL by SAUDI GOVT. so we should accept it as HALAAL ……UNLESS PROVEN OTHERWISE.
Dear Ali shahzad..
Wen i heard of E631 in lays chips.. i was very anxious that how is it possible but dear it is true.. it is not writtten on any of the lays but it is written on the back of lays MASALLA.. and dear the whole E range is pig fat…so go in the market and buy lays Masalla… then see its back i have seen by my own eyes.. do this by ur own self hope u will get your answer..
Please avoid all foods (Canned or un-canned)having permitted food colors and/or permitter preservatives.
0333 30 17228
Well well
Reading all that above i can just say that 1st we should seek for the truth rather than to argue with each other
we r muslims and we should proud for that
so dear bro and sis plz find the truth 1st
i have personaaly talked to fariha and she is not even so sure about that pig material……….
So then i thought that if fariha also doesnot know about that so there is still a room of hope that may be this is not true or may be it can be????
I receive this information by SMS. I personally research on internet about E631 than I inform all my relatives and friends by SMS to avoid lays chips and other products in which includes specific E (codes) ingredients.
my dear i have thoroughly read about the E’s these have no concern to pig’s fat, rather they are all synthetic compounds. have done an extensive research on them. these are mere flavorings…
Dr. Numan Majeed
Student editor Scientific medicine
Muhammad Medical College
Mirour Khas, Sindh
Pakistan
a1num@hotmail.com
+923334757566
There was a reply from Pepsi
http://www.4shared.com/file/103771549/fe949a48/PI_reply.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/103771632/24416b5e/Pakistan_Halal_Statement-Masala_E631__2_.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/103771709/997c8b22/Halal_Certificate_Masala.html
so do some research before telling what is right and what is wrong
Aslamualikum!
Rather going in the debate i would like to say that “i will never ever eat Lays” because i love Islam, and i can surly say that i will live happily without Lays or any doubt full product of the multinational companies.
God Bless you All
Regards
f9.i agree it is not halal.but can some one tell me wht should we eat?and also solve my this problem some said it is halah and some not.plz cum on tv and any other media and company solve thi issue and remove confusion
i studied E means europian unoin approved ,it does not have any concern with the pig,and this E631 not necessarily b extracted from pig,it is normaly extracted from fish.n according to my studies not all the E ranges are haram.only few of them are..
now im really getting cnfused
o com on noman .
u r rite its just a flavor or a salt.but it can b synthesized or can b made from animal fat,so who told u that it is only synthesized ?
the thing is lays is being made in pakistan but the ingredients r imported so even if they r using cowz fat its haram bcz they slaughter it in non islamic way.
Halal only if these chemicals are synthesized in laboratories.
//For those who missed my previous post//
Pepsi Pakistan replied on this matter. As they replied through three scanned copies.. one in jpeg format and other two in pdf format, so it was not possible to post it here.
I have uploaded the three scanned copies as sent by pepsi in a “zip” file format at the following url.
http://rapidshare.com/files/229012514/Pepsi-reply.zip.html
guys, i’ve got the reply from pepsi which they sent to Mr.Amjad,
and there Halal Certificate.
and i want to place it here for every brother and sister, so they can see for themselves.
if anybody can help me how to place jpg file here, i will be thankful.
regards,
Mohzi
Ahmad Akram said:
Pepsi Pakistan replied on this matter. As they replied through three scanned copies.. one in jpeg format and other two in pdf format, so it was not possible to post it here.
I have uploaded the three scanned copies as sent by pepsi in a “zip” file format at the following url.
http://rapidshare.com/files/229012514/Pepsi-reply.zip.html
THANKS A LOT BRO
THE RULE IN AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY IS IF THE PRODUCER CLAIMS HIS PRODUCT TO BE HALAL AND IT IS CERTIFIED BY SOME BOARD OF ISLAMIC ULAA-MAA IT IS ALLOWED TO BE USED ,AND NO SIN ON PERSON EATING THEM EVEN IF BY ANY MEAN THEY FALSIFIED .
(Refernce to a Discussion by Dr. Zakir Naik on Qtv )
We have the poof now please stop this discussion now. And for anyone curious may contact on given addresses and phone numbers for himself.
SO GUYZ ENJOY HALAL FOOD ,ITS BLESSING OF ALLAH ALMIGHTY
PLEASE END THIS TOPIC NOW
iam not against lays but any one can get a halal or haram certificate .if i hav a million dollar i can buy a halal certificate for anything .
i want u guyz to plz download ECONOMIC TERRORISM videos frm this website .u vil com to no abt these stuning reliaties of multinational companies.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7444287477498532583&hl=en
plz clearify the confusion
who wil clearify
the compny
What if I say.
“Milk Pack uses pig fat in making its cream.”
and then I say.
“My dear Muslim brothers and sisters, please stop using Milk pack cream. We are not sure if they are not using the pig fat in it or not.”
If people stop using Milk pack because of this claim of mine without a proof, will it not be a stupidity?
My dear Muslim brothers and sisters, when a certification authority has issued Halal to it and we know that E-631 can be obtained even from sugar or fish or cow and we do not have any proof that pig meat is being used to extract E-631, why are we compelling others not to use it.
Also, please check, its a chemical with a specific formula that is the same whether obtained from cow, pig, fish or sugar. If a pig drowns in the ocean and dies, do you think you should stop using water from ocean? All its contents gets dissolved in water. Do you think, you should not use the ocean water anymore? They do get dissolved but the remnants don’t act like meat or fat of a pig. Direct pig contents are HARAM because they are not good for man but not the contents that are same in the nature otherwise. I think, our Muftis should think about it and show us the correct direction.
May Allah take us to the right path and give us the ability to rectify and defend our beliefs
Open Sahi Bukhari (ahadees ki kitab) and read (Mafhum) “Agar humein, khaney ki kisi bhi cheez k barey main shaak hey, k wo halal hey ya haram, tu ALLAH kehtey hain, k jis cheez main tumhein shaak hey, usey choor ker wo cheezen khao, jis main shaak nahi hey”
Dear All,
LAYS MASLA is HALAL….
I have seen some peoples referring an email of Mr. Akhlaq Ahmad, Business Manager Syed Bhais (Pvt) Ltd. I am working in the same organization so its our responsibility to update all of you about this issue.
I am pleased to inform all of you that, PEPSI Cola International had replied to this issue couple of weeks back. E631 used in Lays masla is halal and i have few documents/certificates from PEPSI cola which they sent to Mr. Akhlaq Ahmad showing that lays masla contains Halal E631 duly certified by their supplier.
Unfourtunately i also don’t know how to place JPG/PDF file with this comment.
Any one help me, so i can place all the certificates over here.
Regards,
Khawaja Asif Naeem
Dear Mr. Asif Naeem Sb.
Please kindly send me all docs at mwajahatw@gmail.com for my record and information.
I will appreciate your cooperaion.
Thanks
Wajahat Khan
hellow sis plz send me all the certificates i need i am a student of medc so plz my e mail is mr_badar@yahoo.com ………. ; babu_zero_metor@yahoo.com
thnks!
Sodium salt of inosinic acid (E631), a natural acid, that is mainly present in animals. Commercially prepared from meat or fish . And yes fake documents can be made easily nowdays …..
I am agree with Mr. Khuwaja Asif Naeem. It is Yahudi Lobby who are Planning for laying Muslims to useless things.
Actually NOW a Days Non muslims are trying their best to wipe up practicing muslims from the world. It could be one of the effort
OR it could be NEGATIVE Competition. As Lays has become top selling product of its group.
thanks.
ASLAM O ALAIQUM after reading ur arguments about lays im stressed to share my views.firstly we r muslims if we dont know about the ingedients about edible things we should avoide using these things and the 2nd thing that we r pakistani our economy is decreasing on alarming level so to improve our standerd we should avoid using foreign products specially the products of our enemies we know better that all other countries believing on other religions are enemies of muslims and they always try to destroy our faith.EMAAN reduces by using haraam things.Non muslim countries use the economy which they get by selling their products to muslim countries against muslims so we should not use their product. We all know that the owe condition of Pakistan is due to our enemies still we cant leave using their products it shows our love and affection towards our country and Islam.IRSHADE RASOOL PAK SALALAHO ALAIHEY WASAL IS ” affection for ur country is half iman” so inhance ur iman by avoiding foreign products
hey whats up!
contact me on my email i have some great knowledge about it.
we all muslims should not eat products having the e631 {pig fat}. plzzzzz every body avoid it
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i think now our muslim are very Educated they can f knw wt is this problem ? where is our Sceintist and Food Inspectors are sleeeping .. they must do inquiry of this case , and they should announce officially
Is This a Pakistani product if it is so then y r they doing so?
If it is not a Pakistani product then we should avoid it and inform it to every one immediatly.
This is bloody nonsense! May Allah guide those who spread these false rumors. The flavor enhancer E631 is not “PIG FAT” it is rather Disodium Inosinate which is A SALT. This doesn’t even HAVE anything to do with FATS!
Please get your facts right before you spread Sharr like this.
Wa aleykum as Salam.
Plezz Plezz plezz avoid this (lays..)
E631 : Sodium inosinate
Origin:
Sodium salt of inosinic acid (E630), a natural acid, that is mainly present in animals. Commercially prepared from meat or fish (sardines). May also be produced by bacterial fermentation of sugars.
Function & Characteristics:
Flavour enhancer. Inosinic acid and inosinates do not have the specific umami taste but strongly enhance many other flavours, thereby reducing the amounts of salt or other flavour enhancers needed in a product.
Products:
Used in many products.
Acceptable daily intake (ADI):
None determined. Inosinates may not be used in products intended for children under 12 weeks.
Side effects:
Asthmatic people should avoid inosinates. As inosinates are metabolised to purines, they should be avoided by people suffering from gout. However, the concentrations used are generally so low that no effects are to be expected.
Dietary restrictions:
Inosinates are generally produced from meat, but partly also from fish. They are thus not suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in most cases not suitable for Jews, Muslims and Hindus, depending on the origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
So guys, it may be from any animal, not just PIG! PIG’s meat is more expensive than cow’s or goat’s! So I don’t think they should be using PIG. It can be any other animal as well. But we should confirm.
One more thing, Lays being a multinational, is also investing in our country by employing our Muslim brothers and sisters and making their families live a life. Don’t you think, if you abandon eating it only due to this reason, will cause their families to suffer. If some Pakistani company can come forward with this quality and setup, I would have no issue abandoning Lays.But currently, sorry, we cannot produce jobs, so let them do that.
How many of us is using MS Windows right now while reading this comment? Have you bought it or using a pirated version? If bought, then you must have paid a multinational a handsome amount of money and have added a drop to their Billions which has not even invested in our country. If not, you have convicted a crime. Why don’t you use any other operating system? If you think you care that much about foreign lobby actions, first stop using this damn Windows then talk about Lays or other small things!
the problem is still unsolved the documents found from IFF (supplier for pepsi pakistan for e631) does not verify directly that it says relating to lays product.I am still unable to find time to check that.
see the discussion from Ahmed Akram pointing to the following link
http://rapidshare.com/files/229012514/Pepsi-reply.zip.html
So can some one verify that the following details is related to LAYS chips
Sales ID Product name
SN716541 Masala , Magic PC
Regards
salm
i think this a lie and i can’t bilive on it..
Lays is maked in lahore and pakistani is not mix a pig fat in lays……
ooooooooooohhhhhhhhh god it’s lieee
dear readers
regarding the LAYS issue,E631 also known as Disodium Inosinate is a flavouring agent extracted from meat,fish,poultry,mushrooms and VEGETABLES too…so everyone please before just blindly believing anyone and everyone,do some little research on your own and then come to your own conclusion.
There is noting worng with these number just check it fools
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_number
and before passing please check or it will be a sin for u
IS THAT TRUE THAT LAYS HAVE PIG FAT AND R NOT HALAL
r u sure u not think that these shamful act done by them??????
yes its true by the research that the they made this product by using the pig fat.
isodium inosinate: This is a flavor enhancer, which may be non-vegetarian. Its sources are mineral, animal (meat/fish), vegetable, or fungal.
http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/faqingredients.htm#tvp
Disodium inosinate
Disodium inosinate does not contain MSG, but works synergistically with free glutamic acid. When disodium inosinate is found on a food label, consumers can be fairly certain that the labeled product contains some hidden processed free glutamic acid (MSG). Disodium inosinate is relatively a expensive food additive that would not be cost effective if it were not used in the presence of MSG.
“””””May be prepared from meat or sardines; may trigger gout, not permitted in foods for infants and young children
Not normally suitable for vegetarians – usually made from meat or fish.”””””””
E631 disodium inosinate [Flavour enhancer] [possibly of animal origin]
It is found in instant noodles, potato chips and snacks, savoury rice, tinned vegetables, cured meats, packet soup.
http://encyclopedia.kids.net.au/page/di/Disodium_inosinate
This problem is not with just Lays. Many of the food products consumed in Pakistan (and all other muslim countries) also have these substances. For example, right now I have a National Foods masalha mix (with a HALAL logo on it) in my hands and a few of these E-series chemicals are listed in its ingredients. And it doesn’t say if it’s from pig or anything else.
So does it make them haram?
Same is the case with a huge range of synthetic food products manufactured here and abroad. Lays is just being used as a scapegoat. Does it make all of them haram?
I am not trying to say these chemicals are halal, i’m just trying to get a clarification for myself.
Dear Friends as long as I know its better to purchase those LAYS chips packets which are imported from Saudi Arabia because I live there for 20 years and its impossible that one thing which Saudi Govt. declared HALAL is haram.
In other sense we can predict that these all blenders are just by another competing companies to reduce the sale of these multi national companies.
But there is doubt of PIG SALT in the snacks which are imported directly from other european countries because PIG SALT is used in these countries in a bulk quantity in different foods.
Hopefully I have satisfied the thinking of many people.
SO THE BEST OPTION IS TO USE LAYS CHIPS WHO ARE IMPORTED FROM KSA….. AND BEST IDENTIFICATION IS THERE WRITTEN ARABIC ON THERE BACK.
In the reply of our respective MEHDI SAB I want to conclude here that All muslims are forbidden to eat haram,we are not forbidden to use things which are made by non-muslims.
If u think in this way then thousands of companies of alcohol are ready to invest in PAK, So it means we all start drinking alcohol even knowing that it is strictly forbidden in our religion. And the cause which we may give is only that we are drinking alcohol because they are contributing to our economy.
How foolish is this thing????? I think now u can estimate by your self.
Slam,
Now we get the proof about this item and code so we the muslims shoud banned it without giving any Damn excuses bcz Good muslim is that who Bliv in What ALLAH said….kisi b behus me pare bgair…kun k ALLAH sbse behtr Jante hn….so plz dnt gv excuses….manjao ar jag jao musalmano….
hi
i heard about this during a lecture, and my teacher told me about it, and that unfortunately i had a lays pack, before the lecture was started and when i heard, it had this ingredient in it, you don’t believe, i had literally thrown up in the class, and i felt my self the biggest criminal of Allah. Please Allah forgive my stupidity and ignorance for those years i had consumed it.
Wow, i don’t whether it is conspiracy to limit the sale of this product or really it is. i don’t know.
Kaleem,
Its a propaganda agaist lays.
its is ok i agree what are you doing between us you are not muslim
hello….i think after knowing this reality we must bycote such products which have to become the part of our body and affect our peresonality if we go on using them.thnk and please “BE TRUE TO YOURSELF”.THANX
Assalam-o-alaikum everyone…
i see a very long and time consuming discussion above.
Many of you commented very scholarly and with proofs…
I must add 1 too.
i m great fond of lays,pepsi and many other jewish products.
But after comming to know that there is something DOUBTFUL in these products.Honestly i don’t feel like eating them again…
I’ll also request u all to keep urself away from such things which contain even a shadow of doubt.
For those who favoured taking these products,i’ll just say that WE WILL NOT DIE OR be CURSED IF we quit these.
Dear Mr Mehdi Hussain.IT IS NOT WE TO PROVIDE FOOD TO OUR BROTHERS BUT ALLAH.
WE MUST DO THE BEST ON OUR PART TO STRENTHEN OUR FAITH.
Dear Muslims:
it is my request to every Muslim that not eat LAYES as u all have read about E631 (pig fat) and also tell your friends not to eat it. and plz aware MEDIA about this issue, beacuse MEDIA is the only thing through which we can aware all the people of the country . PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ tell it to other fellow beings also.
Dear Muslims:
plzzzzzzzzzz tell tjis to media also
THIS IS THE CONDITION AND LEVEL OF OUR FAITH THAT WE ARE NOT READY TO QUIT EVEN A PACKET OF CHIPS(even if it is halal).THEN HOW DO WE EXPECT OURSELVES TO STAND AND RISE AS A NATION AGAINST OUR ADVERSARY.
I THINK IF WE CAN NOT DO THIS THEN WE AIN’T GOT NO RIGHT TO CRY OVER OUR ADVERSITY.
hope we r not dead.are we???
its really shamefull for everyone that we are eating such a non halal food,its really YAHOODI LOBBY .thanx for those who help us to know about this,kindly mention more things which we are eating and have these non hala; things inside,
JAZAK ALLAH .
hey its mansoor here!
i just want to say that if a specialist(DR.M.AMJAD KHAN) has confirmed most E-CODE foods contains pig fat , then why to take risk if you are a muslim , just quit eating it . Not eating a pack of chips is not the end of the world . being a muislim is difficult but its what make us different from others.
Dear publisher of this fake topic off pig fat in Lays masala potato chips
Please provide me your e mail address so that i can send you halal certificates from Saudi Arabia regarding lays chips ingredient E631 and please avoid posting such kind of propaganda only on the behalf of some miss information’s
If any one other than this publisher need these certificates please write me on this email address I will provide you immediately
Umar.shafique@hotmail.com
Please Muslim brothers and sisters kindly change our lives through some practical working not by only blaming others
My dear brother and sisters, Are you know that only due to these multinational companies a great number of Pakistani peoples getting good life standards and economy of Pakistan or becoming more strengthen day by day other wise you all well knows about Pakistani business mans what they provide to there employees and to this Pakistan only hide their incomes and making frauds in tax payments ( I am talking about major community not for all some business mans in Pakistan are doing well)
So please open your eyes and do the right things (May God bless us)
Regards,
Muhammad Umar Shafique
Dear Haris,
u have given ur own answer we r not sure about the exact ingredients so definitlly we should stop eating lays..
ye na kao is ma pig fat shamil hai okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
ye na kao islam ma ye haram hai agar allah kisi cheez par mana kari to ye na kao.our hum ko chahiye ke hum is company par apil kari
mat kao ye pig fat hai is ma okkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Dear Sir,
Thank you so much for informing us , we should stop eating Lays
Farhan
Dear Ms.fariha humayun!
I have read all the comments given by other people, but have not yet seen any documentary confirmation from your side.Some say that they have confirmed it from wikepedia, some say that Saudi Govt can`t allow Haram/Tabo ingredients to be added in food items. But if you just put one scanned piece of paper mentioning E-631 Halal from ur senior management, it would be an end to this discussion.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Dear All,
E631 is Inosinic acid and inosinates which mainly get from “meat” and fish. But whay kind of meat? Is that meat came from pig? No body knows that. You can check this info on food-info.net. So we must stop eating lays because no one know about that meat.
ok not only this code that includes PIG FAT meat there iare various codes that relates to PIG FATso search more and more……….
@Mehdi Hussain on using MS Windows
You can always use any Linux Distribution. Its free to download and use. Why become a slave of Microsoft?
if we have doubt on Lays about Halal and haram we should stop to take Lays. This is the only option in our hands….. no other option is here
dear salam,
islam give us totly lighted way………..no cnfusion then y we not solve this type off multinational compny douch…if is it true then inshallah no more layz compny or like this harram product sale compny in Islami Jamuhria Pakistan. inshallah
best regard
muhammad farhan khan
Every eatables which show doubt in its ingredients must stop to eat.
This is our belief which Islam tells us.
AOA
Dearr
Any body going to conclude wether its decided by any Oficial that Lays is HALAL. We all are just comment it which is time consuming, plz get it closed by some body
regards
I appeal all pakistanis to bycot all pepsi products
FUCK U ALL AND GET LOST
Hi All Stupid Pakistanis,
As per my information there is no Haram contents in Lays product.
Regards.
David
AoA to all my muslims brothers & sisterss !
its very shamful for our government authorities to not aware us from the meanfull activities from the non muslims & enemy of muslim believers. i urge all the muslims to avoid all the non muslims products in our daily life. i hope soooooooo with all of you.
thanks for your participation….
Please read the following before boycott 🙂
http://mukalma.blogspot.com/2009/05/no-pig-fat-in-e631.html
This post contains the certificates from Pepsi ensuring that no Pig Fat is used.
Not necessarily it is obtained from pig, it can have other sources and on where its mentioned that its only obtained from a pig….. so stop creating FUSS….
http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm
AoA
here its Naeem Tahir (Animal scientist) i am here to coment that about the essue you all put here.
E631 has three origion
1. Animnal (mainly cow and pig)
2. Plant
3. Fermentation by product
if you all people visit lays site it is mention there that thay are using that flavouring agent origined from cow and pig.
then there is no doubt for you all people that what the mangt of lays did with us.
for any further enquiry you can contact me on this no. +923009666179
Naeem Tahir
is it true?
maybe 🙂
hope this remove all your doubts
http://mukalma.blogspot.com/2009/05/no-pig-fat-in-e631.html
chk this out… the other view…
http://mukalma.blogspot.com/2009/05/no-pig-fat-in-e631.html
chk this out… the other view…
http://mukalma.blogspot.com/2009/05/no-pig-fat-in-e631.html
The research made by the Doctors it is clearly mentioned tht lays chip contain pig fat so i would like every muslim to avoid eating lays ….
RASIYA PHUSI GUNDO MEN OPPSS SORRY FARIHA PHUSSI GUNDO MEN LOLLZZ
Dear:
Thanks for informaing about the bullshit by the manufactor of lays.By the Muslim person we must unite & asked the Govt. of Pakistan Why they alllow them here for selling.
Thanks, I am with you for this cause.
salam dears,
yar i m student .when i haerd ab8 lays ………etc i stop eating bt nw confuse aftr learn all comints
Aslam-o-alikum
we are all talking aboout that pig fat but sodium inosinate can also be found from a fish now we only hav to confirm that where from thay got it from pig or from fish m tyring and i request u all to do it to
thanx
E631 is a code of “PIG FAT” it HARAM for Muslims,So i requesting to Muslims don’t eat “LAYS CHIPS” and any thing relating this code don’t use it’s codes varies like e632,e632 etc…………
Thank for infoming us.Its a great knowledge and i dont know about it.
As a muslim we have to avoid such things and inform other muslims abpiut these type if things.
Regards
Following is the description of E631 taken from Wikipedia, there is no word of pig used, so it is not proved in any where that E631 is pig fat.
Other thing is that E631 is used only for “LAYS MASALA” remaining all flavor have no E631 as food code.
“Disodium inosinate (E631), chemical formula C10H11N2Na2O8P, is the disodium salt of inosinic acid. It is a food additive often found in instant noodles, potato chips, and a variety of other snacks. It is used as a flavor enhancer, in synergy with monosodium glutamate (also known as MSG; the sodium salt of glutamic acid) to provide the umami taste.
In the US, comsumption of added 5′-ribonucleotides averages 4 mg per day, compared to 2 g per day of naturally occuring purines. A review of literature by an FDA committee found no evidence of carcinogenicity, teratogenicity, or adverse effects on reproduction.[1]
As it is a fairly expensive additive, it usually is not used independently of glutamic acid; if disodium inosinate is present in a list of ingredients but MSG does not appear to be, it is possible that glutamic acid is provided as part of another ingredient or is naturally occurring in another ingredient like tomatoes, Parmesan cheese or yeast extract. It is often added to foods in conjunction with disodium guanylate; the combination is known as disodium 5′-ribonucleotides.”
Source(s):
Wikipedia
ok zohaibalius@yahoo.com
Dear All,
The burden of proof should be on the producer. Lets stop eating LAYS untill someone from PEPSI shows up on TV or in a Newspaper ad & show us that LAYS is a HALAL product. We as consumers have the right to ask for the ingredients. We should stop buying LAYS untill the management of PEPSI provide us with a Proof. The proof should be substantial, with all documents & also printed in daily newspapers. PEPSI spends millions on ads, why cant they start a campaign to tell people that LAYS is halal. One ad for a week will do it. So my brothers & sisters of Islam, lets make LAYS sales drop to minimum. Let the product demand go down untill the product managers & PEPSI’s marketing team have no choice left. If they are not replying to our queries, means that we are not making them do it. Let these corporate giants feel the power of a common muslim. We are not ignorant & we are not easily convinced.
AASIF BASHIR ANJUM
SAHIWAL
This is FAKE
The burden of proof should be on the producer. Lets stop eating LAYS untill someone from PEPSI shows up on TV or in a Newspaper ad & show us that LAYS is a HALAL product. We as consumers have the right to ask for the ingredients. We should stop buying LAYS untill the management of PEPSI provide us with a Proof. The proof should be substantial, with all documents & also printed in daily newspapers. PEPSI spends millions on ads, why cant they start a campaign to tell people that LAYS is halal. One ad for a week will do it. So my brothers & sisters of Islam, lets make LAYS sales drop to minimum. Let the product demand go down untill the product managers & PEPSI’s marketing team have no choice left. If they are not replying to our queries, means that we are not making them do it. Let these corporate giants feel the power of a common muslim. We are not ignorant & we are not easily convinced.
AASIF BASHIR ANJUM
SAHIWAL
Dear Brother Asif,
Please go to this site for certificates from pepsi
http://mukalma.blogspot.com/2009/05/no-pig-fat-in-e631.html
Dear brother Asif if you and people like you really want to do some thing for Muslims of Pakistan than kindly make Pakistan better place to work and live so that our country economy make progress day by day and enabling us to fight our true enemies
But if we continues this kind of fake propaganda then defiantly its first loss is to our Pakistan and to our young generation
So please open your eyes and lets do some thing practical to save Pakistan and also Muslims of Pakistan
It is my message to all Muslim brothers and sisters kindly straighten ourselves by offering prayers and reading Quran and try some practical working to save our country
May God bless our Pakistan and shows us right path
Thanks,
Umar
Dear Umar,
I want to be a good muslim. Nobody knows how much I am trying to do that. First of all its not essantial for us to eat LAYS after prayers. Do offer prayers & refrain from eating LAYS untill Solid Proof. I dont want to see a Web Link. I want PEPSI to launch a Campaign for all muslims in a doubt. This is a “waswasa” & I do know that it is created by “Shetan”. That is why, I am asking for a solid proof to get out of this. I do not have any problem with PEPSI or LAYS but I have a problem in eating PIG FAT. Whatever people say through their misguided “broadmindedness” & I along with many muslims friend will stop using LAYS. I have not demanded to shut it down. I have asked for a Proof not from the personal correspondence but a media campaign. This wont cost PEPSI a forture. Just a week of print ads. This will develop our trust & will help LAYS increase their sale. This is a fair demand. I am a business professional. Please be sure of the fact that with eating a potato snack wont make pakistan a better place to live & work in. Its nothing but a product. May Allah keep our food & money HALAL.
ASIF
Hello All,
thanks for contributing ur comments. on inquiring we get the link of certificate that E631 is not a pig fat
here’s the link
http://mukalma.blogspot.com/2009/05/no-pig-fat-in-e631.html
i can hardly read and understand the certificate….it seems fake to me.
and i still have very much doubt abt it.so insha Alllah from 2day onwards i will avoid these kinds of product.
friend, check out the above link and seee it urself if its satisfies you then carry on with it.
regards
rasmiya
what can I say? some one is saying that it is halal and some are saying it is haram.we should collect some proofs and provide these proofs to the people who really want to that e631 is halal or haram?
search this adress and you will find good information about E631
http://mukalma.blogspot.com/2009/05/no-pig-fat-in-e631.html
My dear brother Asif i am totally agree with you please provide me your e mail address i send you all certificates from Pepsi with their clarification letter
or write me at
umar.shafique@hotmail.com
Regards,
Umar
salam to all, i want to ask queation that is LAYS SALTED contain PIG FTAS als o like LAYS MASALA…. Please reply me to my ID….
talhahaii@yahoo.com
please please please reply me to my ID because i like LAYS SALTED very much and have Eaten it many time
is it HALAL or HARAM
slam to all
our gov is rsponsibl for all this thy have to ban these things .
I WOULD LIKE TO CONDEM THAT american kuto this is not fair.and i would like to thx to dr sb who research on sensitive topic.thx
hi gandoz
sab angreez gando lays banany waly gando in bhian chodo ki bhain in k ghar ja kar chodo kinu k ye hay hi dando hain
I have confurmed from so many sources and would
like to tell u all that both e627 and e631 under the
europian code are extracted from halal sources and
even if they were extracted from pigs and those who ate
them in ignorance are not guilty in terms of islamic laws.
thanx
If someone really finds out the source is really pig and
and is a conspiracy please let me know.
YOU ARE RIGHT.
THANKS.
Dear all,
I was reading all the information mentioned above. Being scientist and health concious, I always read list of ingredients mentioned on the packs, at the momment many of local as well as international food products have E631 e.g Lays, knor cubes, maggi nodeles etc. So its not something unique in Lays only. I also know that most of ingrdients could be halal origin or haram.As pepsi is providing halal certificates and printing halal logo on the pack, then it must be halal.
Reference to Dr. Amjad’s email, its roaming in whole muslim world not less than seven years and proved wrong by South African National Halal Authority (SANHA), you can visit SANHA’s official website and see FAQs.So there is no point left for discussion when originator’s email proved wrong.
Thanks for your understanding.
Regards
thanks a lot for explose this matter , we all have to pray to Allah to forgive us, we r very very sorry to Allah
Thank u very much for giving us a such a kmowledg.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!
Salam, Everyone !!!
yaar ye aap sab ko sochna chahiye ,, listen Ager Lays main pig fat hai naa to aap ko ager us pe trust nahi lays pe to mat khao yaar.. listen guys.. ye jo stamps hain saudi gov. certification ki ye nakli bhi ho sakti hai aap sab ko to pata hai naa k aaj kal zamana kaisa hai .. and tell you what, LAYS in pakistan are not like LAYS in OTHER COUNTRIES LIKE MALAYSIA , THAILAND , SINGAPORE,wahan k lays different hote hain,
So may be Pakistan k theek hon wahan k kharab, ya wahan k theek yahan k kharab,, Nobody knows.
ye jo managers wagera likh rahehain, in ko kuch nahi pata, aise hi kissi issue ko paker kar chawalen maaar rahe hain yaar !!!
ab ager Lays nahi khana to mat khao.. aaap ki apni marzi hai yaar !!!
I think thats pure Halaal. Its only Salt. nothing else. ab ye salt kahan se aata hai ye nahi pata Kiyoo k everybody has salt in their body, animals .. we are animals to.. remember this…
ager aap logo ne sun sun k hi chizen khaani band karni hai naa to listen
Hum sab muslim hain naa !!
aur aap logo ko pata hai
PEPSI stands for Pay Each Penny Save Israel ..
Matlab abb hum jo PEPSI peete hain us amount ka hissa kuch ISRAEL ki saving main jaata hai .. acha
COCA COLA.. us ka logo ko aap ager SHEESHE k samne rakh k dekho ge to
NAUZBILLA. LAA MAKKA , LA MUHAMMAD aaye ga
wo kyoon hum peena band nahi karte ??
and hum un ki products ko pee pee kar un k leye hi peisa akatha karte hain, thats fair enough ?? or isn’t it??
abb bataoo iss ka bhi …
anybody has the answer….??? nahee naa !! aap iss baat ko jhutlaa nahi sakte k ye PEPSI , or COCA COLA.. EVEN COCA COLA SE RELATED SAARI DRINKS MIRINDA 7UP I DONT KNOW JO JO BHI HAIN< SABB KA SHARED MONEY ISRAEL KO JAATA HAI , ager hamare idher logo ko nai pata to sabb ko pata chall jaaye .. !!!
thats the major truth..
aage aap ki marzi
Regards
Mansoor Khan.
Asalam o Alekum
Thanks for informaing about the bullshit by the manufactor of lays.By the Muslim person we must unite & asked the Govt. of Pakistan Why they alllow them here for selling…
Dear Friends!
I`m a student of F Sc in Gujranwala. I read all comments about lays said to Miss Fariha Hamayun. I don`t know that she had this comment because of her tension about this affair because as we receive a lot of sms about this subject. I wanna ask the people that do they have recognized “As Per My Knowledge” as an authorized degree that any body what ever says, you only trust on him because he or she is your friend or you brother or any other else.
I only wanna ask to all of you that you all are saying miss Fariha to show an authorized document which shows that E631 is extracted from a halal source.
I think she is not doing so because her company is not wanna do so.
I WILL ASK YOU ALL THAT ANY ONE OF YOU ALL HAVE HAD A LAB. CHECK OF LAYS. If any one had do so then plz show it to all.
ME SAMAJHTA HUN PAKISTANI KOAM ISI LIYE TRAKKI KAI KR RAHI K JISS KISSI NAY B KAHA NAY KAHA AAP NAY YAKEEN KR LIY. KUCH TO SHARAM KARAIN APNI HALAT PE. AIK ZAMANE THA K LAG FAKHAR SAY KEHTAY THAY K ME PAKISTANI HUN LAKIN AB MUJAY SHARAM AATI HAI KISI INTERNATIONAL FORUM PE KHUD KO PAKISTANI BTATAY HUAY.
ME YE TAJVEEZ KRUN GA K PLZ STOP THIS ISSUE KU K GOVT. OF PAKISTAN PAGAL NAI HAI K HARAM CHEEZ YUN BIKNAY DAY. ME MANTA HUN K GOVT, OF PAKISTAN KA CHECK AND BALANCE ITNA ACHA NAI HAI LAKIN ITNA TO STRICT KAM AS KAM HAI K HARAM CHEEZ KO BIKNAY SAY ROOKAY.
I WANNA LET YOU KNOW K LAYS CHIPS KI SIRF CUTTING ME 20 YEARS KI RESEARCH SHAMIL HAI.
AGAR AIK COMPANY ACHI CHEEZ TAYYAR KR RAHI HAI TO BJAE US KA COMPITITION ME AANAY K US KE KHILLAF PROPAGANDA KR RAHAY HAIN. ME IS FORUM PE KHARAY HO K SAB KO BTANA CHAHTA HUN K PAKISTAN KO TARAKKI KRNAY ME 500 SALL SAY ZIADA LAGAIAN GAY.
KU K HAM BAHESIYAT AIK KOOM APNI SHNAKHT GUM KR CHUKAY HAIN. SAWAT ME LARKI KO KORAY PARTAY HAIN TO SORRY TO SAY K WE HAVE CHILLIES IN OUR ASSES LAKIN JAB BALOCHISTAN ME LADIES KO ZINDA DAFAN KIYA JATA HAI TO HAM CHUP, KARACHI ME KATAL-AAM HOTA HAI TO HAM CHUP KU K AISA KRNAY KA AMERICA SAY HUKAM AAYA HAI.
PLZ FOR GOD SAKE MERAY SATH CHALAIN PAKISTAN KI TARRAKKI K LIYE KAAM KARAIN. FIRST STEP HAM LAYS PE HE LAIN GAY. HAM LAYS KA LAB TEST KAWAEN GAY AUR HAKAEK KO SAMNAY LAEN GAY. JO IS TOPIC PE PAKISTAN KE BE-EZTI HUI HAI US KA AZALA HUM ASLI MUJRIM KO SAMNAY LAA K KARAIN GAY.
ME AAP SAB SAY APPEAL KRTA HUN K IN CHAND LINKS KO BE CHECK KR LAIN. I`LL VERY GREAT FULL TO YOU ALL.
FOR INGREDIENTS INFORMATION IN LAYS=
http://www.fritolay.com/lays/index.html
SEE ALSO
1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disodium_inosinate
And for you Miss fariha m with you all the time and plz i`ll request you not to b get in more tension.
RAHI BAAT BOYCOTT KI TO AGAR YE BAAT SACH SABIT HOTI HAI TO ME KHUD TEHREEK CHALAON GA. YE MERA AAP SAY WADA RAHA.
If any body wanna ask me or say me any thing then plz contact me ant
hamayun_00@yahoo.com
or
hamayunpk@hotmail.com
or
0333-6116412
or
0313-6332791
I konw k meri baatain bohat say lgogn ko buri lagi hain lakin agar aap neutral ho k sochain to aap yakeenan meri baat say ittefak karain gay.
I AM WAITING FOR FEEDBACK. IF ANY ONE HAVE CONCERNS WITH MY POINT OF VIEW THEN PLZ LET ME KNOW.
ALLAH AAP SAB KA HAFIZ O NIGEHBAAN HO.
KHUDA HAFIZ
I m a teacher in a Public Health Postgraduate institute .After reading all the posts and all the research references plus the questions asked during our study visits to Multi national food factories which include the biggest food related international organisation NESTLE (Norway based), it was astonishing to find that there are “too many secrets” which they call trade secrets not disclosed to or answered to visitors. If it is known to all then it can be copied by other competetors. The Basic RAW they receive or import from their BIG PARENT FACTORY is only chemical named what they have to write on the label which is countries legal requirement….. The quality control or government food testing examiners only do basic chemical analyses about fat, protien and carbohydrates and other minor constituents and not concerned with their source of origin….
We should however be 100 percent that a product which is coming from a non muslim country as a secret “RAW” is manufactured according to their own standards from the sources available in their market cheaply… and LARD ( Pig Fat) is one of it… So how come tastes of pepsi, coke, walls, nestle milk products, chocolates, sweats, KFCs ,Mcdonalds, Subways, Pizza huts and many other multinationals is unique…. all claim they use imported taste makers…\
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WHENEVER IN DOUBT IT IS U TO FIND UR WAY….. U LIKE OF U DISLIKE, U ADHERE OR U ABANDON, HALAL OR HARAM
yyyyyyyuuuuuuuuuukkkkkkkkk!!!!!!! lays should be banned.they are the worst chips ever. i want to tell you people that you should stop eating lays chips.pig fat Americans should eat.those idiots.yyyyyyyyyyuuuuuuuuuukkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!
Hi y’allz pigs and piglets out there,
Just so you know, I love pigs and I love you.
PEACE!
GE KA.
i cant understant about lays bcoz if lays have pig fats so why you delay to informed pakistani people i m journalist and i want to details about lays plz dont forget if lays have pig fats so dont use bcoz we are muslims thanks
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SALAAM to all…..
Dear sis… & bro…if we have doubt on Lays about Halal and haram we should stop to take Lays. This is the only option in our hands….. no other option is here.
MASOOD ASLAM
STUDENT OF BBA (PAKISTAN)
+923345028010
thanks for info on this products we will never eat these again
Dear Friends
This is Shahid. I search on the net and found this website for thie E631. It also says that E631 is not suitable for the muslims. see the following link
http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm
thanks
Shahid
E631 : Sodium inosinate
Origin:
Sodium salt of inosinic acid (E630), a natural acid, that is mainly present in animals. Commercially prepared from meat or fish (sardines). May also be produced by bacterial fermentation of sugars.
if we say meat is haram what u say abt that bt if it get from Pig than it woould be bt we eat it because its from cow or goat
these are all rumors which are surounding us cos of da popularty of da brand
u can found e631 in biscuits tooth paste choclates gums
so what we do stop using them
LAYS using sign HILAL and i think in other countries the pig in any form is costly thn beef and fish and how can they use such prohibated thing in Hilal food ?
y people r saying to stop eating LAYS chips?? Yet they don’t have any proof?
If I say that below products also contain PIG fats will u stop eating them? without any proof? Ok Fine then I say these products contain PIGFATS believe me friends
1) all chips
2) all biscuits
3) all chocolates
4) all drinks
5) all candies
6) all breads
so on and on
Huh!! :-S
Also I say that all butchers don’t slaughter in the way Islam teaches us then will u stop eating meat?
and all the fishermen catch dead fishes so u stop eating fish?
one more thing, billions of cows and goats slaughter in Pakistan every year no one is using cow or goat fats? Ohh yeah!! they are actually Mad they IMPORT pigfats :D:D:D:D
Salam….
My name is Ashar.
I am a student.
Miss Fariha if u r in the quality assurance department than u shud give us a prove that there is no haram item in the lays chips.
Our doubt on lays is becoming more strong bcoz u havent replyed anything about this issue.
I appeal to all Muslims not to eat lays as it contain pig fat (E631) and this thing is prohibited by Allah and His Holy Prophet (P.B.U.H).
Mr. Noman plz send me these documents on my e-mail.
My e-mail is : ashar_hameed_786@hotmail.com
Plz send…………..
E 631
Disodium Inosinate *
Flavour Enhancer
Sodium salt of inosinic acid, found in meat extract and sardines
*Syubhah/Doubtful (either by way of its source or manufacturing process)
Information Source http://www.ehalal.org/ecodeproducts.
E tag code doesn’t mean that this product is harram the main thing is the source where we can get that, so we need to check the source (Halal/Harram) not e-code. I refer a website if you people check this lot of things will be clear.
Now my request is to the concern persons of (PEPSI/LAYS) that they resolve the issue.
regards,
Waseem Akbar Malik
I really appriciate Dr. Amjad’s efforts to reveal this information.
THX BROTHER I APPRISHIATE UR AFFERT , NOW I AM TOTALY BYCOT THESE ALL PRODUTS …………….
Aoa.
I also have the scaned copy of proof that there is no HARAM THING ADED in any LAYS PRODUCT.
why we all r just beliving in rumors and why not we trust on PROOFS given by PEPSI Internation.The people who r saying that there is Pig Fats in E631 do they provide any PROOF regarding that.(SIMPLY NO)
BUT I HAVE WRITTEN PROOF THAT THERE IS NO PIG FATS INVOLVED IN MANUFACTURING OF E631 USED IN LAYS
MAY ALLAH BLESS US ALL.
Regards!
S@@d
kindly let me to check the E-631 in the lays products. i am going to checked by correct test method
Here is the URL of food info in which they have said that e631 is not suitable
Also you can search e codes from there
http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm
the complete description is here
Origin:
Sodium salt of inosinic acid (E630), a natural acid, that is mainly present in animals. Commercially prepared from meat or fish (sardines). May also be produced by bacterial fermentation of sugars.
Function & Characteristics:
Flavour enhancer. Inosinic acid and inosinates do not have the specific umami taste but strongly enhance many other flavours, thereby reducing the amounts of salt or other flavour enhancers needed in a product.
Products:
Used in many products.
Acceptable daily intake (ADI):
None determined. Inosinates may not be used in products intended for children under 12 weeks.
Side effects:
Asthmatic people should avoid inosinates. As inosinates are metabolised to purines, they should be avoided by people suffering from gout. However, the concentrations used are generally so low that no effects are to be expected.
Dietary restrictions:
Inosinates are generally produced from meat, but partly also from fish. They are thus not suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in most cases not suitable for Jews, Muslims and Hindus, depending on the origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
All of multinational companies are deceiving us and we have astray from right path to western path…………
Besically the code E631 mean a chemcial sodium Inosinate. E631 is natural acid, that is mainly found in animals. But commercially it prepraed from the meat or fish or from bacteria by fermentation technology. it is used as flavor ebhancer. But in Pakistan most of the poeple fimilair with the code word but the manufacturer should have to show the source of sodium Inosinate or E631. If it from pork or pig than it will HARAM from muslium, the source is HALAL animal than it will HALAL.
But i am going to developed a test method for the analysis or diffrentiate between the pig E631 and ohter animal
Haha..I don’t really like Lays anyway!
Dear All,
I jus gone thru all these comments commentd by u people….
1 thing which should be clear in our minds is dat “Jewish lobby wud never let us(Muslimz) to follow our practices as desired by (Hazrat Muhammad)PBUH”
n Histroy itself iz da witness on my above given statement….
Now lets talk about Haram n Halal
Why u people think dat only Pig Fat is haram…..?
Lays, Pepsi etc all these products, sorry international products, are being offered / made by these JEWISH PEOPLE…. n JEWISH are known as “CHALAK tareen Qoum” even Quran itself says that Jewish cannot be trusted… So no matter how many letters / certificates they issue, I cant trust them (being a Muslim)
now if u say that letter was certified by Saudi Arabia…. LOLz
Saudi Arabia iz Arab country no more Muslim country or it wud have taken some serious steps against that well known war against terrorism….
Those so called Ameer-ul-Momineen breaks the rule (Rule of Islam) anytime without any hesitation… They marry more then four ladies… they wear gold…. even they, instead of being with Muslim countries, cultivate thier relationz with America n Britain….
Kher… its another topic and truly irrelevent…. so jus 4get it
Ambiguity itni zada hai… k kia halal kia haram …ab dhoondna mushkil hai
My father once told me a formula to live a happy and HALAL life…. wo yeh k… everything for wot your heart says OK iz HAlal…n if u r doubted jus leave it…..
But yes…. Gud Luck to all those who are willing to solve out this mystry…
Bubye
Salamz to alll Muslims, May Allah bless us all and safe us from Haram. As i read all the comments after that i just want to say that it is proved that E631 is included Haram Ingredients, So that we have to safe us… And it is also a responsibilaty of all muslims to spread that news to make aware other ones. It is also a responsibility of Lays Muslim Employees that they should take answers and the views of their seniors about that issue.
And after that all Inshahallah i will not eat LAYS MASALA, Untill they respond us, and Lays Management prove that it is HALAL… And i will tel other one to do the same.
May Allah bless us All.
SALAR.
fuck off lays company u r bitches who make it wth pig fat u should be a shame of u r self
Thank for infoming us.Its a great knowledge and i dont know about it.
As a muslim we have to avoid such things and inform other muslims abpiut these type if things.
Regards
Dear all, its simple is that, when anything creates doubt leave it. so please avoid taking “LAYS”, life can be good even without that, believe me
thanks & regards,
jaidi
Salam All,
Please find the information about E631@ http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm
Kh,
Akhtar
If any one wants to have full details on such codes. Please visit the web site as writen below:-
Here is a detail of Code E631 : Sodium inosinate
Origin:
Sodium salt of inosinic acid (E630), a natural acid, that is mainly present in animals. Commercially prepared from meat or fish (sardines). May also be produced by bacterial fermentation of sugars.
Function & Characteristics:
Flavour enhancer. Inosinic acid and inosinates do not have the specific umami taste but strongly enhance many other flavours, thereby reducing the amounts of salt or other flavour enhancers needed in a product.
http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm
Products:
Used in many products.
Acceptable daily intake (ADI):
None determined. Inosinates may not be used in products intended for children under 12 weeks.
Side effects:
Asthmatic people should avoid inosinates. As inosinates are metabolised to purines, they should be avoided by people suffering from gout. However, the concentrations used are generally so low that no effects are to be expected.
Dietary restrictions:
Inosinates are generally produced from meat, but partly also from fish. They are thus not suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in most cases not suitable for Jews, Muslims and Hindus, depending on the origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
PROPHET[P.B.U.H] SIAD IN SAHI BUKHARI:
:IF YOU HAVE DOUBT ABOUT ANYTHING [ IF IT IS HALAL OR NOT] CHOOSE THE ONE U HAVE CERTAINTY ABOUT BEING HALAL”
NOTE
SPEAKING AGAINST THE SAYINGS OF ALLAH OR HIS APOSTLE[P.B.U.H] OR REPRESENTING YOUR VIEWS[IN CONTRADICTION WITH THEIRS] AFTER THEIR VIEWS HAVE BEEN EXPLAINED MAY RESULT IN EXPULSION FROM THE FOLD OF ISLAM
BE VERY VERY CAREFUL ALLLL
Thanx Mr. Jaidi…
i’m 2nd on ur statement…even i beleive dat its the best n simplest way to get rid of this HARAM thingy….
le vaee aj ton paaper he khane ne– lays te lannet peju :p
Rgds
sohail kazmi
sohailrkazmi@hotmail.com
SALAM , hi hru my brothers & sisters , well aik hadis ka mafhoom hai k jis chez main shak ho usy chor do , so we should avoid LAYS……we should act upon the hadis…..
In my humble openion, such (non-hilal) ingredients are impossible to be used in manufacturing of any eatable product…
Regards,
Qasim
a salam to all muslims ,asal waja yeh hai k inn kafiron ko hamari muslims unity aik ankh nahee bahtee hai aur aik sath saafon main khara howa nahee dekh saktay is liye yeh log kisi na kisi tarhan hamay taqleef daitein hain.baharhaal hamara rab hamay bachanay wala baara hai beshak.yeh kafir aaj apnay hee is haram jaanwar ke waja say mar rahay hain.
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I have read on the net that Disodium inosinate E631 can come from Pig fat, from fish and from chemicals (brewer yeast extract which is a by-product of beer making process)or a combination of the three. If the E631 used by Lays only comes from fish or chemicals then it maybe Halal (although I would avoid the extract made as a by=product of beer) but if it comes from Pig fat or a combination involving pig fat then it is haram.
Now we don’t know what is the origin of E631 used by Lays in Pakistan. Maybe it is halal, maybe it isn’t. If the origin of E631 is Chinese or Thai then we may still have doubts that it is halal. However, we don’t know enough to pass judgment. The certificates shown on the website mentioned in a response above are actually signed by an employee of Lays Pakistan. For a Halal certificate t have any Islamic value, it must be issued by a Mufti.
It is not that Lays Pakistan is taking an ad or through some important Paksitani authority assuring us that it is Halal, something they can easily do. And it may very well be the case that in Saudi Arabia they are not using this chemical and in Pakistan they are using it. Or in Saudi Arabia they maybe using more expensive version of this chemical and in Pakistan they are using some cheaper version derived from pigs. After all Saudis are more vigilant than us, and multinationals have sold contaminated milk and other products in Pakistan and Bangladesh but not in Saudi Arabia or UAE.
As a muslim I think unless we have clarity on the issue it is best to not accuse Lays of anything, but also be prudent and avoid consuming Lays chips. After all its only potato chips. We can easily eat other Pakistani brands of chips. Why risk taking on a huge sin just for the sake of a bag of chips?E631 can be generated in 3 different ways:
Finally some of you may remember that last year in India I think it was McDonalds that admitted that their vegetarian product contained traces of animal matter. So multinationals are capable of making such mistakes, and what if Lays is making a similar mistake.
E631 : Sodium inosinate
Origin:
Sodium salt of inosinic acid (E630), a natural acid, that is mainly present in animals. Commercially prepared from meat or fish (sardines). May also be produced by bacterial fermentation of sugars.
Function & Characteristics:
Flavour enhancer. Inosinic acid and inosinates do not have the specific umami taste but strongly enhance many other flavours, thereby reducing the amounts of salt or other flavour enhancers needed in a product.
Products:
Used in many products.
Acceptable daily intake (ADI):
None determined. Inosinates may not be used in products intended for children under 12 weeks.
Side effects:
Asthmatic people should avoid inosinates. As inosinates are metabolised to purines, they should be avoided by people suffering from gout. However, the concentrations used are generally so low that no effects are to be expected.
Dietary restrictions:
Inosinates are generally produced from meat, but partly also from fish. They are thus not suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in most cases not suitable for Jews, Muslims and Hindus, depending on the origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm
Dear Brothers and sisters,
please write an email to given below address for certificates and every information that you need regarding lays
Attn: Saima Arshad (Head of R&D Dept lays)
Pak.customerservice@intl.pepsico.com
or visit given belwo site
http://mukalma.blogspot.com/2009/05/no-pig-fat-in-e631.html
Thanks,
Umar
Dear Brother Sohail,
Why you shake your EMAN by saying HALAL Food HARAM without any proof dear it is great sin and ALLAHA never forgive us for this kind of act.
My dear brother if you don’t like lays then you stop eating but saying Halal food HARAM produced by GOD is not good
So kindly straighten your way
If you need any kind of prove regarding lays please write an email directly to lays company on given below email address and find the truth
Attn: Saima Arshad (Head of R&D Dept lays)
Pak.customerservice@intl.pepsico.com
or visit given belwo site
http://mukalma.blogspot.com/2009/05/no-pig-fat-in-e631.html
just for your information lays is No 1 potato chips in saudi arabia and if some thing haram is used in manufacturing of lays then definitely saudi government block this company to do business but dear it is only a fake propaganda created by lays competitors and you are becoming a part of it
So kindly first investigate whole story then write such kind of comments
May god bless us and show us right path
Regards,
Your Brother
Umar Shafique
DEAR ALL,
I AM CONTINUOUSLY RECEIVING EMAILS AND SMS REGARDING THE FACT OR RUMOR WHAT SO EVER THAT “LAYS” CONTAINS PIG FATS IN IT. BUT ONE QUESTION THAT IS WONDERING IN MY MIND IS THAT IS IT POSSIBLE FOR ANY COMPANY TO ARRANGE PIG FATS IS SUCH A HUGE QUANTITY ON DAILY BASIS????? AT LEAST I DON’T THINK THAT IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE…..HOWEVER BEING A MUSLIM WE SHOULD AVOID ALL THOSE PRODUCTS WHICH ARE DOUBTFUL ESPECIALLY ABOUT THEIR INGREDIENTS TO BE “HALAL”.
THIS RUMOR HAS BEEN SPREAD ALL OVER THE WORLD AS CONCLUDED FROM THE COMMENTS OF PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD SO COMPANY SHOULD COME FORWARD TO CLEAR ITS POSITION THIS WOULD BE BETTER FOR US AND THE COMPANY AS WELL.
MAY ALLAH ALMIGHTY GUIDE US TO THE RIGHT.
MUHAMMAD KASHIF.
0322 4523953
Dear All
The burden of proof should be on the producer. Lets stop eating LAYS untill someone from PEPSI shows up on TV or in a Newspaper ad & show us that LAYS is a HALAL product. We as consumers have the right to ask for the ingredients. We should stop buying LAYS untill the management of PEPSI provide us with a Proof. The proof should be substantial, with all documents & also printed in daily newspapers. PEPSI spends millions on ads, why cant they start a campaign to tell people that LAYS is halal. One ad for a week will do it. So my brothers & sisters of Islam, lets make LAYS sales drop to minimum. Let the product demand go down untill the product managers & PEPSI’s marketing team have no choice left. If they are not replying to our queries, means that we are not making them do it. Let these corporate giants feel the power of a common muslim. We are not ignorant & we are not easily convinced.
AASIF BASHIR ANJUM
SAHIWAL
We Have to leave Eating This Kind Of Things which Contain This Type Of Haram Things.
Mr. Umer Shafiq,
Could u plz show me even a single instance where i used this word specifically for LAYS….still any inconvenience caused due to my comments is, truly, regretted.
but u instead of making corrections in our statements, better come up with some solid evidence that Lays is Halal n dat Pig fat is not being used in it….
n one more thing….. As i already said “Kia halal hai kia Haram”… ab sab mix ho gaya hai… or chahtey na chahtey Lays pe doubt bhi ho gaya hai…
n Doubt……. we all knw ..it is not allowed… simply stop doing whateva makes doubt…. (_Islam)
I truly dont say ur lier or Lays are Haram… but if ur ryte and Lays are Halal…Being a consumer I have right to see those evidences which prove the same…
Rgds:
its it TRUE or just …. joking . etc or .. blackmailing ?
I wish, it was jus a joke….
Umer Shafique has given us a lot of information to us on Lays, including the name and email address of its employees who claim that its products are halal, and its sales position in Saudi Arabia, hence he must be a big fan of Lays. (If he were an employee I am sure he would have told us so, as it is ethically required). However I checked the certificates on the site he mentions and found them to be insufficient. One certificate is issued by a Lays employee and another by a Thai Islamic Association declaring all, yes all, flavours of IFF as halal. There is no mention of E631, the suspect ingredient. Also there was no certificate or Fatwa from any Mufti who is competent to issue such a certificate.
So for someone partial giving up Lays must be difficult, but for neutral consumers, adopting a wait and see approach for a few weeks is easy and prudent.
In the meantime, my advise for Lays company is to please get a Fatwa from a legitimate Aalim in Pakistan and also Ulema from foreign countries where they are buying their ingredients and publicize those fatwas so consumers can be sure.
hloo pakistani
m workng as dsr in lay’s snack. datz nt tru dat lay’s hveng pig fat.
Da factory of lay’s is in lahore named sundar ind estat raiwand. V used pakistani patato. V purchas flavours 4om Thailand nd V hve certificat (Halal Compny of Thailand).
E631 z da code of vagetablz whch used in lay’s masala flavour.
ager lay’s ma koi pig fat huta to Food Inspectr kab k Lay’s per chalan kr chukay hoty.
Dear brothers and sisters,
One thing i want to give into your kind notice that email address i provide to you all is not attached with any single employee of company but it is belongs with customer service center of Lays Company.
So any kind of comments and any kind of knowledge you want to get more regarding lays and its ingredients please write directly on this email address
And i hope that lays will help you defiantly
Pak.customerservice@intl.pepsico.com
But if you not trusting anyone even on company statements and certificates then i never write any comment for you peoples. Because these companies or much much strict in their quality policies this we all knows better as compared by our locals business mans which only suck the blood of innocent peoples of Pakistan by providing poor quality products on heavy prices but never try to beat these companies by producing good quality products and then they try to creates these kinds of fake things into our Muslims minds using our religious emotions.
You all well aware that same kind of fake stuff are created for Coca-Cola ,Nestle, Tang and many other multinationals companies but single one never proved yet.
So please clear your minds by thinking cool
Could anyone among you try to contact with originator of this fake propaganda (Dr Amjad) never i think you people only want to create more hype for lays consumers in lieu of nothing.
Kindly first you search for Dr Amjad and get some solid proof that E631 (Flavor enhancer) used by lays Pakistan in its Masala Flavor is derivates from Pig fat
But i challenge you all that you never can succeeds to get in touch with Dr Amjad which is a fake character of lays local competitors.
My dear brother and sisters hopefully you all think from your minds not from your hearts and it is better for us to think from our minds
So please search for Dr Amjad and find some solid proof please
It is easy to point out some one without any proof but it is not easy to present truth
Dears please for god sake don’t create misunderstands and hypes in innocent Muslims minds by only beating drum of this fake propagandas against multinational companies which provide us good quality stuff on an affordable prices and playing a vital role to make Pakistan better. Many of you also search career in these multinational companies instead to join local why? I think you can answer better and many of you presently serving these companies and well aware of their policies regarding quality and productions.
Please offer prayers and recite holy Quran daily (it is my request to all Muslim brothers and sisters and save our EMAN)
May Allaha shows us right path
Remember me into your prayers
Regards,
You’re Brother
Muhammad Umar Shafique
dear fariha:
Being as a muslim u have to clarify ur issue with a soid reason.Why r u so silent on this senstive issue?u keep in mind no one yet satisfy ur ans.
repppppply………………
personally i feel that we should refer this to the Mufties and get Fatwa but true to my heart i will recommend not use such things which creat doubt.
Does the mufti knows whether there is pig fat in the LAY’S or not ???? Although we know it (pig) is forbidden in ISLAM .
OHHHH YAR ITS HALLAL 100%
hi friends, i got to know abt E631 ingriedent used in the pakistani lays chips whcich we used in our dail routine that that E631 is the PIG Fat and this chemical substance got from it. According to the Dr M. Ajmad khan whos commints are posted above.. he is Dr and he knew it, friends we should be united and make the youth parpeganda to stop eating the products which used E substances as an ingriedentS
E100, E110, E120, E 140, E141, E153, E210, E213, E214, E216, E234, E252,E270, E280, E325, E326, E327, E334, E335, E336, E337, E422, E430, E431, E432, E433, E434, E435, E436, E440, E470, E471, E472, E473, E474, E475,E476, E477, E478, E481, E482, E483, E491, E492, E493, E494, E495, E542,E570, E572, E631, E635, E904.
SO PLZ BEFORE EATING U SHOULD CHECK THE INGRIDIENTS START FROM E.
AT DATED 1-4-2009 MIS SAIMA ARSHAD R&D MANAGER in her applicatition she stated that E631 is HALAL not a pig fat. so we are not accepting her statement. its HARAM to eat pig fat for Muslims… plz awake… thanx
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hi friends, i got to know abt E631 ingriedent used in the pakistani lays chips whcich we used in our dail routine that that E631 is the PIG Fat and this chemical substance got from it. According to the Dr M. Ajmad khan whos commints are posted above.. he is Dr and he knew it, friends we should be united and make the youth parpeganda to stop eating the products which used E substances as an ingriedentS
E100, E110, E120, E 140, E141, E153, E210, E213, E214, E216, E234, E252,E270, E280, E325, E326, E327, E334, E335, E336, E337, E422, E430, E431, E432, E433, E434, E435, E436, E440, E470, E471, E472, E473, E474, E475,E476, E477, E478, E481, E482, E483, E491, E492, E493, E494, E495, E542,E570, E572, E631, E635, E904.
and
These E- INGREDIENTS are present in a majority of products of multinational firms including, but not limited to –
TOOTH PASTE,
SHAVING CREAM
CHEWING GUM,
CHOCOLATE,
SWEETS,
BISCUITS,
CORN FLAKES, TOFFEES,
CANNED FOODS,
FRUIT TINS,
SO PLZ BEFORE EATING U SHOULD CHECK THE INGRIDIENTS START FROM E.
AT DATED 1-4-2009 MIS SAIMA ARSHAD R&D MANAGER in her applicatition she stated that E631 is HALAL not a pig fat. so we are not accepting her statement. its HARAM to eat pig fat for Muslims… plz awake… thanx
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salam 2 all muslim brothers and sisters!
Aik hadees-e-pak ka mafhum hai, Meray AAQA HUZUR SALALLAHO-ALEHIWA-ALEHII-WASALLAM KA FARMAN-E-AALISHAN HAI, tumhari duaain qubul hon ge us waqt tak jab tak k tum halal khatay raho gy.
ALLAH KARIM-AZZAWAJAL hamain halal khanay or khilanay ke taufeeq ata farmaay or haram say bachnay or doosron ko bachanay ke taufeeq ata farmaay Amin.
if it is confirmed that lays contains pig fat because many people have given their comments. after reading all this i m confused may be u r also if so then it is my humble request not to use lays because if it is correct (that lays contains pig fat) then this sacrifice(not eating lays) will bring a lot of ”aasania” for u.
geo hal k sath tab ho ga hamaisha geo. AH
Lays is produced in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan using 100% Halal ingredients
We assure our consumers and customers that Lays Snacks Pakistan uses only 100% Halal ingredients in all its food products. Some news reports from a small section of the media suggest otherwise, and are absolutely false.
All our ingredients (including flavor enhancer E631 that is used in Lays Masala, and imported from Thailand) are compliant with strict quality manufacturing and are 100 % Halal. E631 is produced from tapioca starch which is extracted from a plant called cassava. Pakistan Council of Scientific & Industrial Research (PCSIR), an established government body, has verified that Lays is free of all animal meat fat (i.e. it only contains vegetable fats). Jamia Ashrafia of Pakistan has also declared Lays as 100% Halal. E631 is also certified by the raw material supplier, as well as the Central Islamic Committee of Thailand, as Halal (and the latter has also specifically endorsed the use of the legend “Halal” for such flavor).
Lays chips are produced in Pakistan from the best quality natural potatoes. As a company proud of its superior quality products and best industry practices, Lays Snacks Pakistan is a responsible corporate citizen. We strictly adhere to the local food laws which include only using certified Halal ingredients in all our products.
Lays Snacks are sold in many other Muslim countries including Saudi Arabia, Egypt, UAE and Malaysia. In Pakistan, we employ over 1000 people in the fields of agriculture, production and distribution and are contributing to various social causes like education and health.
For further information, feel free to contact Mrs. Saima Arshad, Research & Development Head for Lays Snacks Pakistan at the following email: pak.customerservice@intl.pepsico.com.
Lays is produced in Pakistan by MUSLIM employees who make the potato chips in VEGETABLE OIL. The company has confirmed that E631 used in Lays is obtained from Cassava PLANT and is CERTIFIED by CENTRAL ISLAMIC COMMITTEE AND JAMIA ASHRAFIA as 100% HALAL. Pakistan Council of Scientific & Industrial Research (PCSIR), an established Government body has also verified that Lays contains ONLY Vegetable Oils. See “HALAL” seal on its pack. Inform our Muslim brothers who are misinformed. Wassalam
PLEASE VISIT THE FOLLOWING SITE:
http://www.muslimconsumergroup.com/Enumbers.do?menu=Enumbers&eventAction=enumberslist&subEventAction=enumbersdetail&fromList=true&eventId=225
Lays is produced in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan using 100% Halal ingredients
We assure our consumers and customers that Lays Snacks Pakistan uses only 100% Halal ingredients in all its food products. Some news reports from a small section of the media suggest otherwise, and are absolutely false.
All our ingredients (including flavor enhancer E631 that is used in Lays Masala, and imported from Thailand) are compliant with strict quality manufacturing and are 100 % Halal. E631 is produced from tapioca starch which is extracted from a plant called cassava. Pakistan Council of Scientific & Industrial Research (PCSIR), an established government body, has verified that Lays is free of all animal meat fat (i.e. it only contains vegetable fats). Jamia Ashrafia of Pakistan has also declared Lays as 100% Halal. E631 is also certified by the raw material supplier, as well as the Central Islamic Committee of Thailand, as Halal (and the latter has also specifically endorsed the use of the legend “Halal” for such flavor).
Lays chips are produced in Pakistan from the best quality natural potatoes. As a company proud of its superior quality products and best industry practices, Lays Snacks Pakistan is a responsible corporate citizen. We strictly adhere to the local food laws which include only using certified Halal ingredients in all our products.
Lays Snacks are sold in many other Muslim countries including Saudi Arabia, Egypt, UAE and Malaysia. In Pakistan, we employ over 1000 people in the fields of agriculture, production and distribution and are contributing to various social causes like education and health.
For further information, feel free to contact Mrs. Saima Arshad, Research & Development Head for Lays Snacks Pakistan at the following email: pak.customerservice@intl.pepsico.com.
it’s so easy to sway the minds of pakistanis..just one mention of the word pig and they all start jumping…NOBODY here feels the need to look up this dr amjad guy ,NOBODY seems to think that he has to come up with his proof that lays-masala in pak are using pig fat…when the company gives its proofs that it is using halal products(and by the way when it says ALL the ingredients are halal ,it includes E-631 too!!..that is common sense)
and by the way swearing at people isn’t supposed to earn you jannat ,what is with people,degrading poor fariha like that and that too before she has even had a chance to post her reply…i am amazed at the words used by this certain fellow who finds swearing in the most dirtiest of urdu words funny…maybe he has had too much to drink,certainly pig fat must be such a BIG issue to such people!
pakistanis are hopeless…how can we progress when the common man is more emotional than rational,how can we claim to be good muslims when we leave one haram thing whilst doing other haram things,having no moral character whatsoever…a person who has no morales is in my view worse than a pig and trust me for such a person eating any pig fat should be the slightest of troubles to think about!
Here’s your certification:
http://mukalma.blogspot.com/2009/05/no-pig-fat-in-e631.html
If that’s insufficient then let’s pool our heads in together now shall we. Let’s say that we have ten rivers, each in one country. All the rivers have exactly the same chemical composition. One of the countries (the one with the largest river), is prohibited to go to. Now here we have a glass of water, from one of the rivers we don’t know which. Does it make any difference which country it’s from if it’s chemical composition is the same?…….it’s like saying sodium chloride is different around the world…….No, the chemicals are the same whether from fish or not. This argument is completely logical. Islam is a completely logical religon. Since the argument is perfectly logical, it stands to reason Islam would support it. BUT you have to take it up on faith and that my friends is where people falter……weak faith. You all complain about this tiny amount of flavour possibly extracted from pig fat, and then you go out with your pants hanging low, smoking no doubt, and then you go home and watch porn and perform other explicitly haram acts………..and you think you are faithful…….Islam is Logic, if some cultural tradition is illogical it is probably not Islam and merely Local tradition. e.g. the issue of dogs, music and sunni-shia conflicts……….
PS: don’t email me or reply to this directly, I would like to avoid all contact with people like the kind i mentioned above. Thank you and May Allah guide everybody (including me) to the right path
salam i can’t speak english well so that’s why i m writing in roman urdu.
salam fariha kia ap hamein bata sakti ho k is code ki hakeekat kia hay aur yeh code kis chezz mein paya jata hay. i mean k is code k bary mein ap bataoo. ap to lay’s compnay mein job karti ho. to ap ko pata ho ga k yeh code kia hay. E631 plz defin it. mein ney to search ki hay aur mujhey jo link mila us mein saaf likha hay k yeh just animals mein paya jata hay.
http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm
is link mein jo hay us k bary mein plz conferm kro otherwise ap yeh job choor do coz yeh halal nahi hay haram hay.
assalam-o-alikum guyz
I M VERY HAPPY 2 C U AGASNT DA MULTINATIONALS COMP TARRISIM AND WE MUST BYCOTTED THESE HARRAM PRODUCTS
ENJOY WHERE U R GUYZ
ATHAR
Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
aj sa un ki sari product ko gandasa maro
sikandar
Assalam-o-Alaikum to all..
I saw all comments up there and before posting i also did some research.
Found documents, letters, images and pdfs etc. couldnt satisfy myself..
The following questions remain unanswered.
1. Are the provided documents real?
2. If the documents provided up here are real then how can we be so sure that the company claiming to produce Halaal products isnt lying/faking for Commercial benefit?
3. E631 or Disodium_inosinate can be from any source . which source is being used for obtaining it for Lays or other such Halaal products?
4. Is this a compaign for Maligning the profit those companies,, for gaining competitive advantage ? (this one was neutral)
5. “Jis cheez main Shak ho..usay chorr do”… reference to Hadith is correct. Do we really think and act like this? Are we having confusion over the above?
6. Biggest of all. Is there any chance that any of us dies just because he/she didnt had Lays (or other conflictory product) for lunch etc that day ???
Well i think all of us are sane enough to think of answers. Its not a moral obligation to eat/use Lays or similar products,,, neither a government order nor an Islamic law.
None of us will be **SURE** about Lays or similar products composition until and unless we have seen its stages of production. (Well that too can be deceiving).
Moreover as far as other products such as toothpastes, soap etc are concerned , we may want to opt for **alternatives** (this is what we should think about).
Regards,.
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PS. There is a detailed post on similar matter. Just check it out here.
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Why Pig Fat is not mentioned but code(s) are printed??(LAYS Chips Pig Fat)
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http://www.mesmarty.com/2009/04/why-pig-fat-is-not-mentioned-but-codes-are-printedlays-chips-pig-fat/
Salam to all who creat this E number?
i think this Non muslim policy to make fool muslim ppl. thats y thay create this E numbers only manufacturer knows that what is it mean but end user is totly blind….
how to solve this issue?
We are Muslim and this is our responsibility to avoid this Harram Lays chips and these type of products. Kindly send this message to all your friends and your around people.
We Have to leave Eating This Kind Of Things which Contain This Type Of Haram Things.
aoa all i would to something about lays
Specially for fariha
I found E631 used in lays is not pig fat, just follow this link and it is helpful for all of us..
Some googling tell that E631 can be generated in 3 different ways:
1. It can be obtained from sardines (fish).
2. It can be made from brewer yeast extract which is a by-product of beer making process.
3. It can be extracted from pig meat.
If method #1 is used then it is Halal. If method #2 is used then it is not Haram but it is better to avoid it. However if method #3 is used then most certainly it is Haram.
So Please U people gathered correct information then spread it
Ahmed
Wateen Telecom Lhr
ahmed786_2000@hotmail.com
aoa all i would to something about lays
Specially for fariha
I found E631 used in lays is not pig fat, just follow this link and it is helpful for all of us..
Some googling tell that E631 can be generated in 3 different ways:
1. It can be obtained from sardines (fish).
2. It can be made from brewer yeast extract which is a by-product of beer making process.
3. It can be extracted from pig meat.
If method #1 is used then it is Halal. If method #2 is used then it is not Haram but it is better to avoid it. However if method #3 is used then most certainly it is Haram.
Ahmed
Wateen Telecom Lhr
ahmed786_2000@hotmail.com
asalamu aliukum thanks for giving us imformation about this chips
don’t ask these persons
try to locate the proof yourself
check this link
http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm
i luv jus Golden chips.. ummmah
NAUZUBILLAH,thnx for informed me
thanx a lot 4 inform, we should avoid 4rm LAYS n follow the teachung of ALLAH n his beloved PROPHETMUHAMMAD S.A.W.W
SALMAN QURESHI
its may in enemy with lays
some has said this rumour in enemy wit lays
Dear All,
“Dietary restrictions:
Inosinates are generally produced from meat, but partly also from fish. They are thus not suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in most cases not suitable for Jews, Muslims and Hindus, depending on the origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information on the origin.”
These lines have been copied from the link given below.
http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm
As we all know that issue of E631 flavor enhancer in LAYS is going on for past few days. but still none of the LAYS official have shown their presence on the front picture. There is something fishy inside. every body can see that above copied lines clearly states that these flavor enhancers are NOT SUITABLE for MUSLIMS in most of the cases.
in “Shabbi malik’s” comment who has showed himself as DSR in LAYS (I DON’T KNOW WHAT IT MEAN) he has said that they are importing these enhancers from THAILAND, which is not a MUSLIM country itself and most of the food they eat are HARAM.
so i request to all of you that please avoid these products unless some solid proves are shown by the LAY’s officials.
Muhammad Kashif.
Dear All,
i think thats our ignorance which make us suffer, why dont we go through the ingredients before eating any thing. iam really fond of lays and my kids as well but now i though that i have to go through the ingredients as well.i personally dug up the ingredients of lays french cheese and masala in french cheese E631 is not used but in masala its presence is obvious. the question arises that if a company denies a truth how its possible that customers/consumers trust them in future. its so unethical and only lays management can satisfies us.
Muhammad Umar Shafique i request you to suggest your company to come across and resolve this issue giving an ad in the newspaper is not enough where are the certificates, name your suppliers from where you are getting this stuff is needed
however as far as E631 is concern it is Inosinates are generally produced from meat, but partly also from fish. They are thus not suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in most cases not suitable for Jews, Muslims and Hindus, depending on the origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information on the origin.”
personally i didnt prefer things where i have doubt and suggest all of you the same
Sabra Nadeem
THIS IS ABSOLUTLY
A BLACK MALING THE E631 FLOVOUR IS MADE FROM CASAVA PLANT WHICH IS BRING FROM THILAND AND THILAND GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN APROVED THIS IT’S 100 % HALLAL AND JAMAIE ASHRAFIA HAS ALSO APROVED THIS…..
LAYS IS 100% HALLAL
AND THIS IS MADE IN SUNDAR INDUSTRIAL,RAIWAND,LAHORE
AND PAKISTAN GOVERNMENT HAS ALSO CHECK THIS…………
OK ENJOY LAYS ITS NOT HARAM…. OK
PLZzzZZzzZZzZzzZzzZZZzzZZz
kia ap LAYS co0mpany ma kam kartay haen
we are very sorry ALLAH We were eating these and not knowing it
but from now we will not eat these chips
thnkyou
thank u so much for such an important information
Dear All,
We live in a country there is no law n orders if Dr. Amjad is true, then what can you do? they are very big they have issued a statement from (PCSIR) that the LAYS CHIPS IS 100% HALAL.
We are muslims but very bad human being ……sorry from all of you. Here in pakistan you can do every thing from money.
wiki pedia provided with the info that says e631 is salt but it is extracted from pig and fish fat .so this part is controvertial
Dear All,
We live in a country there is no law n orders if Dr. Amjad is true, then what can you do? they are very big they have issued a statement from (PCSIR) that the LAYS CHIPS IS 100% HALAL.
We are muslims but very bad human being ……sorry from all of you. Here in pakistan you can do every thing from money.
@MUHAMMAD ZAHEER
making typos doesnt make person a liar……..that was a pathetic reort…….and moreover if u look carefully LAYS has HILAL label on it. and if @ Mr. Amjad you claim it where’s the proof???????give us the proof beacuse without proof your story seems made up ofcourse.
dear friends being a muslim v should not eat such sort of chips in which prohabited things are used although v r unawar but from today v will bicote of such materials
we dnt have the right to be called Muslims what would have happened if they added the right ingredient shame on me i ate 3 packs of lays salted today
i am dis gusted
DR AMJAD KHAN
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Asalam o Alykum All,
As Saleem Said everything is possible with money and It is true.The said company given bribe to PCSIR and they issued HALAL report.
How PCSIR issued that report even they don’t have any technology and chemicals to verify that it is Halal ? Chemically exam of microbiology test showing it is Totally Haram. Be ware of these food war attacks of non -Muslims,Jewish and others.
god help the children to avoid eating the chips of lays.people who made lays chips in pakistan are mother fucker.fucking them
mery penu te paravu ik gal kan khol ka sun lo jiny vi LAYS chips khadi or kissi insan da bacha nahi
i was read all who are saying that Lays items id Haram.. this is very surprising every person saying without knowing this is Haram or Halal, My dear all this is Hallal not Haram, only this is propaganda to degrade this Lays product,they are trying to down market to lays product. some people making fool and playing our religious(Islam) and trying to hurt that peoples eating Haram Items like Pig fat food items, beware plzz who they are playing with Islam. this is just propaganda.. nothing inside anything…
Dear all above;
as a single person, no one is able to rectiry all the system at once.
we have many deficiencies in our systems, but i think when a documentory proof is submitted about the legality of an item, then no need of so lenghty arguments.
i think we have much more field in our individual & collective lide for rectification.
kindly dn’t waste your valoable time on ill arguments.
i hope you all must understand, what i want to deliver you.
Allah care you and guide us to a right path: Aamin
Best Regard’s
Shabbir Hussain (0300-8912921)
Sajid ali shah (0300-4034322)
There’s been a lot of hue & cry regarding LAYS. Lays claim that they get E631 from IFF thailand, certified by the Islamic council Thailand.E63 ca be obtained from
1-Brewer yeast extracted by product of beer making process
2-Pig Fat
3-Sardines(fish).
They claim on website they’r getting it from sardines.Now in newspaper advertisment they claim that it contai only vegetable fats.
There’s something fishy.
Dear All ,it’s simple as that ,when anything creates dout leave it. So please avoid taking ‘LAYS’. Life can be good even without that, belive me .
After all it’s just potato chips. Why risk a big SIN just for a bag of Chips?
Afew year ago when LAYS wasn,t available what did we use to do? It’s amazing how much time do we have for such absurdities, every 2nd person is coming up with this issue but hardly anyone is bothered about SWAT refugee reliefs work.
We need to Wakeup!!
Thank a loth for such an important information
here is some important info of e-631 from http://www.food-info.net
E631 : Sodium inosinate
Origin:
Sodium salt of inosinic acid (E630), a natural acid, that is mainly present in animals. Commercially prepared from meat or fish (sardines). May also be produced by bacterial fermentation of sugars.
Function & Characteristics:
Flavour enhancer. Inosinic acid and inosinates do not have the specific umami taste but strongly enhance many other flavours, thereby reducing the amounts of salt or other flavour enhancers needed in a product.
Products:
Used in many products.
Acceptable daily intake (ADI):
None determined. Inosinates may not be used in products intended for children under 12 weeks.
Side effects:
Asthmatic people should avoid inosinates. As inosinates are metabolised to purines, they should be avoided by people suffering from gout. However, the concentrations used are generally so low that no effects are to be expected.
Dietary restrictions:
Inosinates are generally produced from meat, but partly also from fish. They are thus not suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in most cases not suitable for Jews, Muslims and Hindus, depending on the origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information on the origin.
Regarding the issue of E631 in Lays products in Pakistan : only Lays can provide the correct information. Chemically the origin can not be distinguished, so only Lays may know, as they know the exact supplier. We are sorry, but we do not have that information,
we think about that why don’t Jews use this. do you know jews used oly HALAL thing.
so are not conform that E631 that lays used is made from. so we should leave them as soon as possible.
MAY ALLAH BLESS US aameen.
hi allll…..
wats teh use in argueing….better stoping eating things which r haram 😀
regards
ras
0323 4086227
lays chips contain pig fat in them and pig fat is not only preset in lays masala but also in lays ketchup tango(E160c)this is also a pig fat!!
all the Muslims are requested not to eat lays
send sms to all
Dear users
Iam very shocked when i read this message !!!!
We Should ban tHis cHiPS1!!!!!! i tHink tHis all iS rubbIsH!! i knoW!!!:P
Hadees ka mafhoom ha k jis bary my app ko koi sharai daleel na mily or jo bat quraan or hadis sy na mil rahi ho bhter ya ha k us k bary me kuch ullma e karam sy pooch lia jay jo deen ka ilm rakhty hoon or agar ap aisa no kar sakain to apny dil sy is ka pooch lain agar ap ka dil kary to karain warna choor dain………
if it is proved then leave it.
Aslam Alikum
To all the readers kindly read the article in urdu
http://ummatpublications.com/2009/05/17/story7.html
Dear all,
I am continuously reading all the information mentioned above. Can any one bothered to search out who is Dr. Amjad, why he wrote this email and in which contest.
I have got confirmation from many islamic institutions world wide and came to know that Dr. Amjad wrote this email at lease 7 years back and its being roaming around the world. Most of Islamic Institutions has already proved it wrong. Please see below link at famous halal certification body SANHA, south africa
http://www.sanha.org.za/faq.php
I would suggest you to please keep in mind Islamic Rule ” Verify before you amplify”.
regards
why we dont use the products made in pakistan ?
there are so many products contain pig fat but we eat them and we use them specially chocolates so we should avoid them and these products should be banned to import thanks
Assalam o Allakum.
A few days back i saw an Islamic book which is quite common in people traveling across the countries. Its name is “Tohfa-e-Safar”. This book has been printed quite some years ago. This books also tells about some food codes which are safe, Some which are suspicious and others which are haram.
The suspicious category contained this code E631.
This means being Muslims and following the islamic rulings which say (mafhoom) that “abandon the things where you feel doubt”.
So we should avoid this product since it has created quite some doubts in our minds.
There are potatos available on evey vegetable shop. we can make french fries cooked in desi ghee :D.
ya rite there shold be some action against them…….
my dear if you see all tin pack my be you see 85% write E…………..
kindly tell me in that time all Muslim need first see all tin pack than eat
Dear All,
I am seeing different views from different people. So we are worried about Lays chips. We are spreading emails, blogs, SMS etc that lays contains Pig Fat, will you please let me know how many my friend verified the authenticity of this stuff. Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) said, “Kisi kay jhoota honay kay leyeh ittna he kafi hay kay wo suni sunai baat ko bagir takeek agay bayan kar day”. So please dont be sentimental. Aur halal cheezon ko apnay upper haram na karin.
Allah bless you all.
Best Regards
DEAR EJAZ,
I THINK THAT U R NOT READING THI SBOG REGULARLY,
PLEASE VISIT THE LINK GIVEN BELOW.
http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm
AP KO AP K QUESTION KA JAWAB MIL JAIY GA.ITS CLEARLY MENTIONS THERE THAT IN MOST OF THE CASES THIS ELEMENT E631 IS NOT SUITABLE FOR MUSLIMS.ONLY CONCERNED PERSONS OR THE COMPANY CAN PROVIDE THE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THE SOURCE OF THIS ELEMENT. NOW ONLY THING IS THAT WHY ANY OF THE COMPANY’S REPRESENTATIVE IS NOT SHOWING UP WITH THERE STATEMENT. U, ME AND ALL KNOW THAT
THIS ISSUE IS GOING ON SINCE SO MANY DAYS. IN THIS DURATION THE COMPANY SHOULD HAVE COME UP WITH SOLID PROOF THAT LAYS DOES NOT CONTAINS ANY HARAM ELEMENT. ONLY ADVERTISING THAT LAYS I SHALAL IS NOT ENOUGH.
HOPE U WOULD BE SATISFIED AFTER READING THE INFORMATION GIVEN IN THE LINK.
REGARDS
Dear Kashif,
U are absolutely right. Thanks for sending link.
Anis
The Pepsi Cola International says in its media report: We assure our consumers and customers that Lays Snacks Pakistan uses only 100% Halal ingredients in all its food products.
The Central Islamic Committee of Thailand has verified that Lay’s chips are free of all animal fat. Pakistan Council of Scientific and Industrial Research (PCSIR) has verified that Lay’s is free of all animal meat fat and contains only vegetable fat. The council verifies in its report that the fat extracted from the provided sample contains vegetable fat. No animal fat is used in the product and hence there are no chances of pig fat neither in the ingredient E 631 or any other.
Jamia Ashrafia serves as an authentic source to matters pertaining to Islam, its procedures and resultsin Pakistan. The Jamia is of the view that if the manufacturers and the concerned authorities have verified that the E-code ingredients included in the product have been extracted from plants and no such animal fat is used, the consumption of the Lay’s product is right and in accordance to Islam.
The proofs presented above are indeed an eye opener. They not only clear the confusion but also remove doubts from the mind of a layman. These proofs however, raise valid questions for all those who advocate the presence of haraam ingredients in Lay’s chips.
How authentic is the report by some Muslim doctor in the West? Is not the authenticity of the report questionable?
How can a single person’s report on this haram ingredient debate become voice of millions and millions of Muslims all over the world?
Does one report by some anonymous individual have more weightage than several proof certificates of registration and verification by Lay’s?
Is the stated research and the arguments presented in favour of presence of pig fat based on truth or is it mere propaganda?
How true is this halaal haraam debate? Is the debater aware of the encoding process and the nature of ingredients? And if yes, can he/she actually prove and counter-attack the several reports presented to prove the ‘guilt-free’ ingredient?
Moreover, Pepsi Cola international says in its media statement: Lays Snacks are sold in many other Muslim countries including Saudi Arabia, Egypt, UAE and Malaysia. In Pakistan, we employ over 1000 people in the fields of agriculture, production and distribution and are contributing to various social causes like education and health.
Let’s speak about Pakistan first. 1000 employees mean 1000 families. If this baseless debate keeps on circulating will not the future of these 1000 families be at stake? Of course labour makes the most important part of any organization and it is the labour who suffers in the end if and when work stops. Can a developing country like ours, already at the verge of bankruptcy with weak economic indicators afford such a mass level of unemployment?
And to speak of the Muslim world, where Lays chips is the number one brand with a huge distribution and consumption and a large work force in different capacities, will not such rumours bring down the already withering state of economy?
And on what cost? Rumours, falsehood and unauthentic sources.
Regards,
Fariha
DEAR FARIHA,
HOPE U WOULD BE FINE. I HAVE READ UR COMMENT IN WHICH U HAVE TRIED YOUR BEST TO PROVE THAT LAYS CHIPS ARE HALAL BUT I WAS NOT EXPECTING SUCH KIND OF REALLY FOOLISH REASONING FROM A COMPANY LIKE PEPSI COLA INTERNATIONAL OR FROM ANY OTHER EMPLOYEE OF THE COMPANY.
I WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS THROUGH THE SAME CHANNAL YOU HAVE ADOPTED TO RAISE THESE QUESTIONS..
YOU HAVE ASKED THAT HOW A SINGLE PERSON’S VOICE HAVE BECOME THE VOICE OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. SO MADAM THE REASON IS THAT YOU AND YOUR COMPANY HAVE GIVEN THIS SPACE TO ALL OF US TO RAISE OUR VOICE AGAINST ALL THE FACTORS WHO ARE DOING OR TRYING TO DO SUCH KIND OF SHAMEFUL ACT OF INCLUDING HARAM ELEMENTS IN FOOD. WHY ANY OF YOU REPRESENTATIVE HAVE NOT SHOWN UP FOR THIS ISSUE IN TIME? YOU SHOULD SHOW MORE INTEREST IN WHAT THE ISSUE IS IN SPITE WHO SPREAD IT. WE ARE MUSLIMS AND WE HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS RESERVED TO ASK THE MANUFACTURER ABOUT THE INGREDIENTS OF THEIR PRODUCT.
NO REPORT FROM ANY ANONYMOUS MEANS NOTHING TO US BUT IF SOME QUESTION HAVE BEEN AROUSED DUE TO ANY FACTOR ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO CLARIFY THAT ESPECIALLY IF IT IS AS SENSITIVE AS THE TOPIC UNDER DISCUSSION.
WHY SHOULD ALL OF US BE AWARE OF THE ENCODING PROCESS. ITS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ANSWER ALL SORT OF QUESTIONS RAISED BY THE CONSUMERS.ARE YOU AWARE OF ALL THE RELATED INFORMATION YOU DO IN YOUR DAILY LIFE?
AND LAST AND THE MOST PATHETIC REASON GIVEN BY THE COMPANY IS THAT IT IS FEEDING 1000 EMPLOYEES OF PAKISTAN.WHAT THE HELL IS THE MEANING OF GIVING THESE KIND OF WORDS. N WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE MEAN BY THIS.SHOULD THIS MEAN IN ANY CASE THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW ALL THOSE COMPANIES WHO ARE PROVIDING JOBS TO THE LOCAL MARKET DESPITE OF THE FACT THAT WHATSOEVER THEY MAKE OR SUPPLY TO PEOPLE OF A MUSLIM COUNTRY? INSTEAD OF PROVIDING SOLID PROVE TO PEOPLE ABOUT THE DOUBTFUL INGREDIENT COMPANY HAS STARTED BLACKMAILING THAT 1000 EMPLOYEES WOULD LOSE JOBS…….WHAT A REASONING BY SUCH A BIG MULTINATIONAL…..
I ALSO SECOND MR. NAVEED ESSANI’S WORDS JAMIA ASHRAFIA HAVE NOT DECLARED THAT LAY’S ARE HALAL. THEY HAVE ONLY EXPLAINED THE CRITERIA OF HALAL AND HARAM.
REGARDS
Please read this Comment
Dear Friha
The Article from the below url mentions that the muslims in thailand does not have faith in “The Central Islamic Committee of Thailand”
http://ummatpublications.com/2009/05/17/story7.html
as far as you say
that (PCSIR) has verified that lays is Pig fat free what do you say about PSCQA
pakistan standard Qaulity Control Authority the url gives you the story
http://ummatpublications.com/2009/05/19/story6.html
Whereas Jamia Ashrafia has not declared that lays are pig fat free what they have said aqainst the question of lays consumer if Mr Shahzad that if this product is free from Haram ingredients then its Halal otherwise not this does not mean that Lays is halal it is still needed to be legally proved
On the other hand Dear fariha I understand that there are 1000 people employed and they are 1000 families but if the Pepsi cola international is so
worried about their employees they should prove it in the court of law so far
all the evidences seems that people should stop consuming the lays product
http://ummatpublications.com/2009/05/16/story8.html
In Islam if one become suspicious about something then stop it and never go near it after all I believe
It is not the matter of rumors, it is not the matter of 1000 poor people, and it is
Not the matter of number one Chips brand but it is the question of Faith of the Muslim nation if these are just the accusations then Pepsi Cola international must prove themselves innocent
You must’ve got your bosses right behind your *%&@ if you were that really.
Hey guyz! Some body posted a link to wiki… I think that he should have visited the link at first place… See here’s the link he posted:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E631
In the article about E631 (Disodium inosinate) on wikipedia, it is clearly mentioned that the flavouring enhancer is mainly found in animals like pigs and fish. He wrote that it is an artificial salt, so you must check the link your self and judge whos correct.
Lays do contain PIG FAT!!
And for him, better use your own brain first boy!!
plz check this website
wat is disodium inosinate….
e631 is mentioned by this
http://www.ourfood.com/Ingredients.html#SECTION0017007150000000000000
Proof:
Disodium inosinate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Disodium inosinate
IUPAC name
[show]
Other names Disodium 5′-inosinate
Sodium 5′-inosinate
Disodium inosine 5′-monophosphate
Inosine 5′-(disodium phosphate)
Sodium inosinate
Identifiers
CAS number [4691-65-0]
PubChem 20819
SMILES
[show]
Properties
Molecular formula C10H11N4Na2O8P
Molar mass 392.17 g/mol
Except where noted otherwise, data are given for
materials in their standard state
(at 25 °C, 100 kPa)
Infobox references
Disodium inosinate (E631), chemical formula C10H11N2Na2O8P, is the disodium salt of inosinic acid. It is a food additive often found in instant noodles, potato chips, and a variety of other snacks. It is used as a flavor enhancer, in synergy with monosodium glutamate (also known as MSG; the sodium salt of glutamic acid) to provide the umami taste. It is mainly found in animals like pigs and fish.
In the US, comsumption of added 5′-ribonucleotides averages 4 mg per day, compared to 2 g per day of naturally occuring purines. A review of literature by an FDA committee found no evidence of carcinogenicity, teratogenicity, or adverse effects on reproduction.[1]
As it is a fairly expensive additive, it usually is not used independently of glutamic acid; if disodium inosinate is present in a list of ingredients but MSG does not appear to be, it is possible that glutamic acid is provided as part of another ingredient or is naturally occurring in another ingredient like tomatoes, Parmesan cheese or yeast extract. It is often added to foods in conjunction with disodium guanylate; the combination is known as disodium 5′-ribonucleotides.
ppl wen we dont know tht is it pig fat or fish….we shudnt use it…till we hav confirmation…..
courtesy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disodium_inosinate
ACTULLY MY FRND MSG ME THAT BE CARE FULLABOUT E631 IS PIG (KHNZEER CHARBEE) N I FIND ON NET THAT ARE REAL SO PLZ MUSLIM DONT USE ANY KIND OF PRODUCT RELATED TO ISAREAL OR EUROPE COUNTRY N USA OK
Dear Brothers and sister,
Here on this forum my some brother and sisters are also posting web address for DAILY UMAT NEWS PAPER KARACHI regarding some Anti lays stories
So my dear brothers and sisters I want to show you brutal face of this blackmailer UMAT NEWS PAPERS
One side they are publication ANTI LAYS stories and blackmail to lays company and on the other side they are publication lays advertisement that LAYS is 100 % HALAL please visit this given below address to see from your own eyes
http://ummatpublications.com/2009/05/16/
Now you all well aware that this is only a fake propaganda form LAYS competitors
So my dear brothels and sisters please cut the hands of these balk mailers who are playing with our EMANS only for money
Soon you will see with proofs that lays is 100 % Halal
May ALLAHA show us right path
Regards,
You’re Brother
Muhammad Umar Shafique
Dear Brothers and sister,
Here on this forum my some brother and sisters are also posting web address for DAILY UMAT NEWS PAPER KARACHI regarding some Anti lays stories
So my dear brothers and sisters I want to show you brutal face of this blackmailer UMAT NEWS PAPERS
One side they are publication ANTI LAYS stories and blackmail to lays company and on the other side they are publication lays advertisement that LAYS is 100 % HALAL please visit this given below address to see from your own eyes
http://ummatpublications.com/2009/05/16/
or
Now you all well aware that this is only a fake propaganda form LAYS competitors
So my dear brothels and sisters please cut the hands of these balk mailers who are playing with our EMANS only for money
Soon you will see with proofs that lays is 100 % Halal
May ALLAHA show us right path
Regards,
You’re Brother
Muhammad Umar Shafique
salam to all muslims,
except the one who z motherfucker wch indroduce lays made vid pigfats he s such a rascl,
being a muslim,e only want to say that dis company should b close as soon as possible
Dear Fariha,
ASA,
Today evening I bought some refresment includes “Lay’s” chips for my 13 y old doughter. when i give these to my doughter she suddenly replys that
“PAPA This lays chips are not halal”. after that I check the ingredients & found three elements written in E numbers. I suddenly checked on internet and found one of these E numbers (E631) IS NOT MENTIONED IN HALAL PRODUCTS.
please check the following links for details
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E631
it is clearly mentioned that E631 is mainly found in animals like PIG & FISH.
My question is
what is the origin of E631 which used in Lay’s Masala product ? PIG or FISH.
please proof.
LAY’S PAKISTAN IS HALAAL
The South African National Halaal Authority (SANHA) is an internationally recognized organization, and an acknowledge authority on all matters pertaining to the general application of the term Halaal with specific reference to Islamic dietary laws.
SANHA has been established as a representative authority, which promotes professionalism and excelled in developing systems for the certification of Halaal food and other related products. SANHA is committed to standardizing Halaal procedures internationally thereby rendering a tangible and credible service to both the consumer and the industry. Indeed, this strategy does not only prove beneficial for the Muslim consumer but it is also a means of promoting trade.
SANHA is among the founding members represented on the World Halaal Council and enjoys global recognition from both Muslim and Western Countries.
SANHA has over the past several years rendered assistance to the Halaal industry in Pakistan and has issued Halaal certification of several Pakistani companies: some of whom are listed below:
• Dawn Bakeries
• Youngs Foods (Pvt) Ltd
• Shangrila (Pvt) Ltd
• Candyland
• Bisconni
• Snack City
• Leiner Pak
• Haleeb Foods Ltd
• Freshmate Ready Meal
Halaal certification authorities, food technologists and industry professionals who are au fait with E-additives and food ingredients will bear testimony to the fallacies and baseless claims of the said email.
Recently, Lays Pakistan has regrettably been bearing the brunt of various emails and consumers have been mislead into believing that E-631 used by LAYS, Pakistan, is a derivative of animal fat.
SANHA, an International Halaal certification authority has investigated the ingredients used by LAYS Pakistan and can confirm that their ingredients are Halaal complaint. Infact the E-631 used by LAYS Pakistan is derived from TAPIOCA STARCH, a plant based raw material which has been certified Halaal.
Consumers are advised to be wary of such malicious emails and urged not to circulate any such mail until the information has been verified and confirmed by a reputable expert authority.
For all Halaal related queries, you may contact the Halaal Helpline on helpline@sanha.org.za
Remember the Islamic Rule, “Verify Before You Amplify”!
For South African National Halaal Authority
M.S. Navlakhi (Moulana) M.Y. Seedat (Mufti)
Theological Director Theological Representative
Questions for SANHA representative(s).
Your words are not enough that E631 used in Lays Product is HALAL.
1- Will you pls. provide any link for image of that certificate?
2- Why Lays company did not take a HALAL PRODUCT CERTIFICATE from any
Muslim country? (If yes pls. provide the links for images)
Regards
PLEASE READ ME!
AND BE SATISFY!
This is only the way to reduce the costumers of Lays Chips because it is going top in chips nowadays.The people who make other chips are jealous from the lays.Don’t be afraid, there’s nothing in this chips.
The above information is completely right and i ask all my muslim brothers and sisters to plz boycott or avoid the goods which contain e-numbers……..
hey big daddy if you can eat cocroaches then come and talk to us stupid man and dont even try to to this again
plz koi bta dai kia yeh sach hai ya koi GHAIR MUSLIM hm MUSLAMANOUN ko bahrkany ki koshish kr raha ha???????
plzzzzz pzzzz tell me
0334_67 48 627
thanks for sharing this information….
can any1 plz e-mail me the list of HALAL n HARAM codes n products that are prevailing in the market….
mu e-mail id is………… blindeyezz@gmail.com
thanks in advance…
tk care all
ALLAH HAFIZ
It mite be OK that E631 is pig meat
but is this only made for Muslims.
if it is written their that it is for Muslims than Muslims should protest
but if not than they should not eat and tell others not to eat.
this is what i think
sorry if some one hurts.
Solomon
P E P S I
PAY EVERY PENY 2 SAVE ISREAIL
Dear Brothers and sister,
Here on this forum my some brother and sisters are also posting web address for DAILY UMAT NEWS PAPER KARACHI regarding some Anti lays stories
So my dear brothers and sisters I want to show you brutal face of this blackmailer UMAT NEWS PAPERS
One side they are publication ANTI LAYS stories and blackmail to lays company and on the other side they are publication lays advertisement that LAYS is 100 % HALAL please visit this given below address to see from your own eyes
http://ummatpublications.com/2009/05/16/
or
Now you all well aware that this is only a fake propaganda form LAYS competitors
So my dear brothels and sisters please cut the hands of these balk mailers who are playing with our EMANS only for money
Soon you will see with proofs that lays is 100 % Halal
May ALLAHA show us right path
You’re Brother
Muhammad Umar Shafique
Thanks brothers for taking quick action about this.
this is a shock well i dont even eat masala i only eat cheese.but i regret pakistanis doing such things.Terrible
Dear Brother Sheraz,
Please clear your mind from lays dear it is 100 % HALAL
If you want any prove please let me know i will provide you
I write several times here on this bog that it is only propaganda
So please avoid to saying Haram to HALAL food it is a big sin
Dear please think from your mind if some thing is happing with lays then why this brand is NO 1 in ALL Muslim countries
Dear it is also get approved from PCSIR test and Lays company also announce fatwa for HALAL from Jamia Ashrfia
So please don’t make yourself a big sinner by saying HARAM to HALAL food
LAYS IS 100% HALAL
May Allaha shows us right path
If you have any query please right me an email on
Umar.Shafique@hotmail.com
Regards,
You’re Brother
Muhammad Umar Shafique
LAY’S PAKISTAN IS HALAAL
The South African National Halaal Authority (SANHA) is an internationally recognized organization, and an acknowledge authority on all matters pertaining to the general application of the term Halaal with specific reference to Islamic dietary laws.
SANHA has been established as a representative authority, which promotes professionalism and excelled in developing systems for the certification of Halaal food and other related products. SANHA is committed to standardizing Halaal procedures internationally thereby rendering a tangible and credible service to both the consumer and the industry. Indeed, this strategy does not only prove beneficial for the Muslim consumer but it is also a means of promoting trade.
SANHA is among the founding members represented on the World Halaal Council and enjoys global recognition from both Muslim and Western Countries.
SANHA has over the past several years rendered assistance to the Halaal industry in Pakistan and has issued Halaal certification of several Pakistani companies: some of whom are listed below:
• Dawn Bakeries
• Youngs Foods (Pvt) Ltd
• Shangrila (Pvt) Ltd
• Candyland
• Bisconni
• Snack City
• Leiner Pak
• Haleeb Foods Ltd
• Freshmate Ready Meal
Halaal certification authorities, food technologists and industry professionals who are au fait with E-additives and food ingredients will bear testimony to the fallacies and baseless claims of the said email.
Recently, Lays Pakistan has regrettably been bearing the brunt of various emails and consumers have been mislead into believing that E-631 used by LAYS, Pakistan, is a derivative of animal fat.
SANHA, an International Halaal certification authority has investigated the ingredients used by LAYS Pakistan and can confirm that their ingredients are Halaal complaint. Infact the E-631 used by LAYS Pakistan is derived from TAPIOCA STARCH, a plant based raw material which has been certified Halaal.
Consumers are advised to be wary of such malicious emails and urged not to circulate any such mail until the information has been verified and confirmed by a reputable expert authority.
For all Halaal related queries, you may contact the Halaal Helpline on helpline@sanha.org.za
Remember the Islamic Rule, “Verify Before You Amplify”!
For South African National Halaal Authority
M.S. Navlakhi (Moulana) M.Y. Seedat (Mufti)
Theological Director Theological Representative
LAYS ARE HARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.
PLS AVOID EATING THIS pork SHIT.Pls pakistani Muslim brothers, check the below mentioned url………
http://ummatpublications.com/2009/05/16/story8.html
This will surely help you to understand the real story.
Dear Dr. Farhia
Please read as under and clarify that from which source you get E631 or sodium inosinate. Its a serious matter you have to give answer.
E631 : Sodium inosinate
Origin:
Sodium salt of inosinic acid (E630), a natural acid, that is mainly present in animals. Commercially prepared from meat or fish (sardines). May also be produced by bacterial fermentation of sugars.
Function & Characteristics:
Flavour enhancer. Inosinic acid and inosinates do not have the specific umami taste but strongly enhance many other flavours, thereby reducing the amounts of salt or other flavour enhancers needed in a product.
Products:
Used in many products.
Acceptable daily intake (ADI):
None determined. Inosinates may not be used in products intended for children under 12 weeks.
Side effects:
Asthmatic people should avoid inosinates. As inosinates are metabolised to purines, they should be avoided by people suffering from gout. However, the concentrations used are generally so low that no effects are to be expected.
Dietary restrictions:
Inosinates are generally produced from meat, but partly also from fish. They are thus not suitable for vegans and vegetarians, and in most cases not suitable for Jews, Muslims and Hindus, depending on the origin of the product. Only the producer can provide information on the origin
KNOW THE REAL STORY.
LAYS ARE HARRAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Checkout this link…………….
http://ummatpublications.com/2009/05/16/story8.html
Dear Xulqar,
Here on this forum my some brother and sisters are also posting web address for DAILY UMAT NEWS PAPER KARACHI regarding some Anti lays stories
So my dear brothers and sisters I want to show you brutal face of this blackmailer UMAT NEWS PAPERS
One side they are publication ANTI LAYS stories and blackmail to lays company and on the other side they are publication lays advertisement that LAYS is 100 % HALAL please visit this given below address to see from your own eyes
http://ummatpublications.com/2009/05/16/
or
Now you all well aware that this is only a fake propaganda form LAYS competitors
So my dear brothels and sisters please cut the hands of these balk mailers who are playing with our EMANS only for money
Soon you will see with proofs that lays is 100 % Halal
May ALLAHA show us right path
You’re Brother
Muhammad Umar Shafique
bhai jaan chalo man lete hen k ye halal he but ye he to israeli brand ki or kam az kam hum ise is lea to chor sakte hen k israel hmare muslim brothers ko falestin men mar rahe hen or hmare is pese se hmare muslim brothers ko nuqsan na pohanche
n its 16 may newspaper..
on front page they have displayed half paper advertisement showing Lays is halal
http://ummatpublications.com/2009/05/16/
and in inner pages displaying the full story about Lays is Haram….
wah ray wah
Now what to believe or what to not….
i like Ummat news paper, but i think instead of spreading so much confusion they should take one stance and then should stand beside that.
Ummat must be putting this to thier viewers to decide, whether its harram or halal. Now thats called professional journalism.
hmmmmmmmmm…………….. thats interesting.
They need advertisement. Not even careing that, this dual policy can create a controversy. But still. paisa paisa paisa.
Hey Umer that was a good one. Our people (and media is no exception) just know how to spread false. They can never counter attack neither provide with any logical proofs to prove that they are right. Ummat publication is the best example. On one hand they publish a feature about Lay’s and its ingredients and on the other hand they publish a paid placement saying that Lay’s is halal. Isn’t this hypocrisy? I would say it isan idiocricy..an extreme one dear mate! So for all those out there who want to believe one side of the story, I suggest go for Lay’s proofs and certificates. They have taken one stance since day one and have not been exhibiting any childish attitude as this Ummat daily has taken. Moreover, the proofs have been open to all and sundry. I have questioned in my previous post about the authenticity of the research report of Dr. Amjad, his whereabouts and professional details. I believe voice of one anonymous individual cannot become voice of millions and millions of Muslims. I question again the authenticity of this fake report published in Ummat. It is for all you to see for yourself the joke they have made of themselves.
Comeon You stupid Muslims…………
what the hell are you all haleing FARIHA,FARIHA,FARIHA. you damn it. Every muslim gets slipped, when they just read any female’s name against any comment.
Now here is one, who is asking this ghostly FARIHA, to satisfy her. ooooooooooooooooh my God. check out official site of FARIHA HUMAYUN.
http://www.lays-are-harram.com/confirmedandapproved/FARIHA-H/israel.aspx
Wow very intense comments
lays is best chips of the world i like it yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmy dont make fool peoples
Hi All,
Here i am reading your comments and decided that LAYS is HALAL 100%
And this is only a propaganda against lays as lays is breaking records of sales and it creates a big hit to Super crisps and Kolson
So they make Muslims fool to increase their sales by creating this rumor
We Muslims are now thinking and never can trap these kinds of false propagandas
Lays is HALAL and that’s the reason still lays continuously sailing on shops
Regards,
ABUBAKAR
KARACHI
Xulqar,
Please give respect to females
Your provided address is not correct so kindly don’t post such kind of false rumor on this forum
Lays is 100 % HALAL
Regards,
Abubakr
Fariha and Abubakar <<—————–
LISTEN EVERY ONE LISTEN……….
Guess what!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is a man with two faces, or might be two sexes……
Weired man.
When its confirmed that lays chips are harram. Why the hell are you defending it. Backoff buddy. i know you creep, working for this porky company.
……….LAY TO HELL WITH YOUR LAYS……….
http://www.lays-harram.com\confirmed\banned in pakistan.aspx
Mr Xulqar,
You are stupid person.
COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL MAN.
i didn’t knew, you got infected by swine flue. pls control.
http://www.lays-harram.com/confirmed/bannedinpakistan.aspx
Bloody hell, you’re just part of the agenda to boost sales of local chips haha
How much do you get paid? and who are you working for?
@ Shahraiz.T <———– I am working for Mobilink. aur sonao.
@ Shahraiz.T <———– I am working for Mobilink. aur sonao. and as far as i know, they dont make chips but jazz and indigo chip.
; – p
03008155057
Foolish Xulqar (Agent of Local crisps),
You are really really stupid man so go to the hell
Any one on this forum not listing your brainless thinking
GO TO THE HELL BASTARAD
@Salman <——– son you are my dirty bastard baby. you dont deserve to talk to your dad like that. ask your bitch mama, who fucked her. Son i was the person who brought you to this world. and now? comeonnnnnn sonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn………
stop fooling around, go and wash your panties. looks like you have been eating tooooooooooo much lays masala chips. you are snoring like pig.
http://www.laysareharram.com\salman-infected\swineflue.aspx
Hi every one Xulqar is a paid employee of Super crispes
I m really sorry everyone.i will like to let everyone know, that there was some misunderstanding. Actually Lays company do get E631 from Thailand. We were told that this enhancer was extracted from plants and fish. But yesterday we got official information from the thai company, That the product E631 used in lays chips was extracted from pigs. We are sorry for the false statement. that we had issue through electronic and print media.
Dear Fariha,
As per my information you are noting working in Lays (Pepsi Cola )
You are spreading your shit all arround the world.
Dear Friends of All wodrpress:
As per new information E631 is axtracted from Fariha pussy !!
Regards.
Shah G
@ Xqular
You are like a shit on this earth dont worry my son soon i will fuck your sister with soap and make son like you an i also want to fuck your mother too my sonaaaaaaaaaaaa bata.And i think your ass is also look like pig so all pigs want to fuck you too
Jaaaaa maraaaa sona tidyyyyyy apni maaaaa kaaaaaa gusa main ja kar soooooo jaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Son of bitch (X Qular)
Bye
Your Daddy
YEs Salamn
You are right X qular is really need this
All FUCK TO XQULAR SISTER HAAHAAAHAAAHAAA
Hi everyone.
I have seen my friends like Rashid pig, salman porky and Shahraiz.Total swine.You all people can see, That these all three are one, and all one are three, just like jesus trinity. They have been infected by swine flue. dont care about there snoring. They will die soon. and for Dr fariha, i salute you. Dear Muslim brothers and sisters, its nice to hear the truth from her. So let us all put our hands together and clap hands for the courageous and dareing comments from her.
by the way i m 13 years old little boy. you threesome assholes.
http://www.salmanfuckedbyrashid.com
hahahaha………………
Yar xulqar, you have nice sense of humour. i love it man. keep it up.
YOU ARE SPECTACULAR RECTANGULAR X QULAR.
please muslim girls and boys do not eat lays chips because they are made from pig charbi this is haram animal you do not believe me check on big lays packet there is a pig number i dont remained the number but plzzzzzzzzzz do not eat the lays chips
Dear All,
plz read this carefully.. this is much much important …
this matter is not only for Lays Chips… these are almost all the western products.
infact the jwish policy to take us far away from islam by giving us haram things.
so we are going in the same direction as thay want, we regret MASWAK and starts doing TOOTHPASTE, we stop making local soap and using Branded Soap as proud on that i.e u know i use PEARS soap, i use DOVE soap. and dont want to use local soaps hahahaha… we are using Alcohlic PERFUMES instead of ITTAR, PEPSI and OTHER SOFT DRINKS which are having PIGs sausage in their concentrates.(astagfirullah, ya ALLAH hamaray pechlay gunnah maaf farma da aur ainda hummain in Khabis cheezoon sa bacha la. aur humain hidayat da, aur Jwish ki in sazishoon sa bacha la aur apni panah ma la lain. AMEEN)
Result:
just because of all these things the muslims are at lowest level nation in world. just because of that our leaders are like ZARDARI (the most currept man of Pakistan). thats all is happening which ALLAH pak said in quran.
Solution:
1. request to the consumers plz plz plz try to use the local products instead of branded. and just try to spend ur daily life as per the SUNNAT of HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (sallal-laho-alaiehe-wasalm). use maswak, ITTAR, normal food, normal water instead of PEPSI and othe drinks,
2. request to industrialist who are making these products, plz plz plz start making ur own products and market that with in our own country, so that all the money will be inside our country. no need to pay for using the name and no need to buy PIG’s related minerals, use our own countries spices (the best in the world).
3. also restrain our children from these things and put them on the natural resources and SUNNAH to give this World a better nation than us.
if any one of you goes on these suggestions, i’ll think my self the luckiest person in the world and may be just because of this my ALLAH forgive my all sins and take me to the Jannat….
Thanx,
M. I. Mughal.
My Dear Brother Mughal,
I think saying HALAL products haram without any proof is not good for muslims as we believe in ISLAM so it is a great sin
So kindly avoid to saying that all branded products are HARAM
Dear These products are locally manufacturing in Pakistan by Muslim employees and Muslim management and under strict quality laws which i think our local business mans not followed and they provide us low quality products with high prices so why we not buy branded products that’s the reason my brother we are using branded products for good quality
And dear i think we need to change our daily routine life to change Muslims position in this world we must avoid to telling a lie, and offer 05 times prayers, read holy quran and obey Islamic laws but dear we are not doing these all things which is necessary for Muslims and we only doing fake propaganda against multinational companies without any proof only thinking that these companies taking money outside Pakistan but dear for your information these companies are much much higher tax paying to our Pakistan
And top 10 high tax paying companies in Pakistan are these multinationals
So these companies are making our Pakistan better place to live and work in
So why we are closing our eyes from this positive factor
So it is my suggestion to all Muslims brothers and sisters kindly change our daily routine life according to ISLAM and soon we will see that MUSLIMS are NO1 in this world INSHALLA
Please remember me in your prayers
You’re Brother
Muhammad Umar Shafique
Dear Umer
You are nice guy.
you are awakening the pakistani muslims .
Keep it up we are with Lays.
Nazir
Hi Dear All Listen listen very carefully,
X qular and jamal mohiuddin are both a new type of PIGS that create from this Swine Flu and One big PIG really fuck very hard to X qular and jamal mohiuddin mother so these mother fucker are on this earth
And my dears Sarosh is MAN not a GIRL and he shows that How these mother fuckers X qular and jamal mohiuddin fuck him and he also become a FAT PIG GIRL
What is the SLOGAN remember please
FUCK THE SISTER OF XQULAR OHHHHH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
HUMMMMMMMMMMM MAZAAAAAAAAAAAA A GIA
Plz visit this site
http://WWW.FUCKSISTEROFXQULAR.COM
HAAAAAAAA
HAAAAAAA
Yes thats good
Salam : main aik hi baat karoo ga k kio b chez lane se pehle ye tehqeek kar lain k ye jo ap istamal kar rahe hai kia ye sahe tareqe se banahi gai hai
halal aur haram main koi tameez karni chahe
My dear brother and sister,
I have an important information regarding 100% HALAL authentication of LAYS Chips
Please visit given below link which stated that
E631 : Sodium inosinate
Regarding the issue of E631 in Lays products in Pakistan we would like to refer to the Lays Pakistan Statement and the certification of Halal of Lays products. The inosinate is made from tapioca starch and no animal products are involved in the production.
Link is
http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm
So my dear brothers and sisters LAYS in Pakistan is 100% HALAL and approved by international Food info
My Dear Brother and sitters i also strongly recommend to read given below email from Dr. Ralf’s proving that E631 is commercially being produced from plants and Dr. Amjad’s email is grossly incorrect
Subject: RE: [Fwd: RE: Questions to Food-Info]
From: “Hartemink, Ralf”
Date: Tue, May 19, 2009 1:42 pm
To: questions@food-info.net
mainmanan@hotmail.com
————————————————————————
—
Dear Abdul,
I received this mail from my colleague.
Well, it is a very strange and absolutely false e-mail. It is a classical case on how you can misuse some facts to scare people.
It is true that worldwide a lot of pigs are being held and these are obviously not halal. The same for any other meat slaughtered in a non-Islamic fashion. But then it starts about a conspiracy on the use of pig fat. And that is not correct.
If pig fat is used as an ingredient it has to be labelled in most countries (at least in Western countries, I don’t know about all
countries) as animal fat or pig fat. There is no cover-up for that.
It is also true that fats, including possibly animal fat, can be used to produce some additives, mainly the emulsifiers, as well as cosmetics.
Many soaps are derived from fat, which may include animal fat.
The E-numbers as such are not a European idea, the numbering system is a UN-based list of all additives that may be used in human and animal food. This is done by the WHO/FAO. In the EU the laws are more strict and not all numbers on the list are approved. Only those that are approved for use in the EU get an E before the number. Australia, Canada, India and more countries use the same numbers, but, of course, without an E. The number simply is a shorter name for the often very complex chemical names of the additives. It has nothing to do with a cover-up or similar.
The companies do not even have to mention the number, they can also use the name, or the combination of name and number. But either the name or the number has to be mentioned. As all numbers are clearly defined, it is also clear what additive is actually used.
The number of additives that contain fat is very limited, and many of the list below do not. E 100, 110, 120, 140, 141 and 153 are food colours. E100 is the yellow colour from turmeric, or the yellow colour of curries. Obviously no fat is used there. E110 is a completely synthetic yellow colour made from petroleum-derivates. No natural components or fat are being used. E120 is haram, but because it is made of insects, it has nothing to do with fat. E140 and E141 are the green colour of leaves and is made from grass. It does not exist in animals and obviously has nothing to do with it. E153 is normally made from burned plants, but in some countries animal material may still be used.
E210-E219 are all benzoates. These are made synthetically and no animal fats are being used. They are also present in berries. All have the same origin, so it is quite strange that some numbers are not in the list and some are !
E234 is an antibiotic produced in cheese by a micro-organism. It has nothing to do with animals.
E252 (and also E251) are nitrates, normal minerals and not derived from any living organism.
E270 is an acid made by bacteria from sugar, 325-7 are salts from the same acid. No animal material involved. The same for E280.
E334-337 are made from by products in the wine production. They may thus be haram for that, but have nothing to do with animals or pigs.
For the E400 and 500-series, see http://www.food-info.net/uk/qa/qa-fi45.htm for the specific on these.
The E631 (and actually that should be the E626-635 as they can all have the same origin) can be made from meant, although this is not commonly done, as it is too expensive.
E904 is made of insects and thus indeed haram, but has nothing to do with animals.
So the list mentioned is absolutely incorrect and some numers are missing, whereas some are absolutely wrongly on the list (sucha s the lactates).
A completely different discussion is actually whether additives derived from pig fat, but in which the pig origin is not detectable, is actually indeed haram. This is not my speciality, but we have had a longtime discussion with some imams and islamic scientists that had quite different opinions. What we do is provide facts, where does it come from and how can you know 9or not) and leave the actual use to the individual consumer based on his/her beliefs.
I hope this clarifies the situation for you and it would be nice if you could also spread this message in Pakistan, so people can get a better and true view on additives and which may be haram. So far all food scientists in Islamic countries that we have consulted, agree with the list at http://www.food-info.net/uk/qa/qa-fi45.htm.
Kind regards,
Ralf Hartemink
Dr. ir. Ralf Hartemink
http://www.blt.wur.nl; http://www.mft.wur.nl; http://www.food-info.net; Programme Director Food Technology and Food Safety Wageningen University Dept. Food Microbiology PO Box 8129 6700 EV Wageningen the Netherlands
+31-317-483558
fax : +31-317-484978
ralf.hartemink@wur.nl
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Dear Sir/Madam,
i thank you for your reply,
could you please reply after reading this email.
Here is the most pertinent part in case you are in a hurry:
So, I request all MUSLIMS or non pork [meat] eaters to check the ingredients of the ITEMS of daily use and match it with the following list of E-CODES. If any of the ingredients listed below is found, try to avoid it, as it has got PIG FAT; E100, E110, E120, E 140, E141, E153, E210, E213, E214, E216, E234, E252,E270, E280, E325, E326, E327, E334, E335, E336, E337, E422, E430, E431, E432, E433, E434, E435, E436, E440, E470, E471, E472, E473, E474, E475,E476, E477, E478, E481, E482, E483, E491, E492, E493, E494, E495, E542,E570, E572, E631, E635, E904.
The full email is below:
FW: Why Pig Fat is not mentioned but code(s) are printed?? read In nearly all the western countries including Europe, the PRIMARY choice for meat is PIG. There are a lot of farms in these countries to breed this animal. In France alone, Pig Farms account for more than 42,000.
PIGS have the highest quantity of FAT in their body than any other animal.
But Europeans and Americans try to avoid fats.
Thus, where does the FAT from these PIGS go? All pigs are cut in slaughter houses under the control of the department of food and it was the headache of the department of food to dispose of the fat removed from these pigs.
Formerly, it was burnt (about 60 years ago). Then they thought of utilizing it. First, they experimented it in the making of SOAPS and it worked.
Then, a full network was formed and this FAT was chemically Processed, Packed and Marketed, while the other manufacturing companies bought it.
In the meantime, all European States made it a rule that every Food, Medical and Personal Hygiene product should have the ingredients listed on its cover. So, this ingredient was listed as PIG FAT.
Those who are living in Europe for the past 40 years know about this.
But, these products came under a ban by the ISLAMIC COUNTRIES at that time, which resulted in a trade deficit.
Going back in time, if you are somehow related to South East Asia, you might know about the provoking factors of the 1857 CIVIL WAR. At that time, Rifle Bullets were made in Europe and transported to the sub-continent through the Sea.It took months to reach there and the gun powder in it was ruined due to the exposure to sea.
Then, they got the idea of coating the Bullets with fat, which was PIG FAT. The fat layer had to be scratched by teeth before using them. When the word spread, the soldiers, mostly Muslim and some Vegetarians, refused to fight.Which eventually lead to the Civil War. The Europeans recognized these facts, and instead of writing PIG FAT, they started writing ANIMAL FAT.All those living in Europe since 1970?s know this fact. When the companies were asked by authorities from the MUSLIM COUNTRIES, what animal fat is it, they were told it was COW and SHEEP Fat. Here again a question raised, if it was COW or SHEEP Fat, still it is HARAAM to MUSLIMS, as these animal were not SLAUGHTERED as per the ISLAMIC LAW. Thus, they were again banned.
Now, these multinational companies were again facing a severe drought of money as 75% of their income comes from selling their goods to Muslim Countries, and these earn BILLIONS OF DOLLARS of Profit from their exports to the MUSLIM WORLD.
Finally they decided to start a coding language, so that only their Departments of Food Administration should know what they are using, and the common man is left lurking in the dark.Thus, they started E-CODES.
These E- INGREDIENTS are present in a majority of products of multinational firms including, but not limited to – TOOTH PASTE, SHAVING CREAM CHEWING GUM, CHOCOLATE, SWEETS, BISCUITS, CORN FLAKES, TOFFEES, CANNED FOODS, FRUIT TINS, Some medication Multi-vitamins Since these goods are being used in all MUSLIM Countries indiscrimately, our society is facing problems like shamelessness, rudeness and sexual promiscuity.
So, I request all MUSLIMS or non pork [meat] eaters to check the ingredients of the ITEMS of daily use and match it with the following list of E-CODES. If any of the ingredients listed below is found, try to avoid it, as it has got PIG FAT; E100, E110, E120, E 140, E141, E153, E210, E213, E214, E216, E234, E252,E270, E280, E325, E326, E327, E334, E335, E336, E337, E422, E430, E431, E432, E433, E434, E435, E436, E440, E470, E471, E472, E473, E474, E475,E476, E477, E478, E481, E482, E483, E491, E492, E493, E494, E495, E542,E570, E572, E631, E635, E904.
Now dears it is proved that LAYS IN PAKISTAN IS 100 % HALAL
Regards,
Muhammad Umar Shafique
Assalam O Alaikum!
I am a student and used to eat Lays and was very fond of them. But now after this conspiracy about them, i do not eat Lays. And by the grace of Almighty Allah I am still alive.
The point is if you are in a doubt, stop eating Lays and after all you have got other options. If all what you want is some junk food so you can go with other, available so easily in Pakistan.
All those who are saying that Lays are Haram, they are giving proofs and so are they who are saying that they are HALAL, now you do not know whom to beleive??? So the better way in my opinion is to give up on Lays as it is Jews company as well and this way we Muslims can cause them a little harm as well for all they are doing against Islam!
Regards
Areeba
Dear Areeba Baiti,
i assure you that Lays is 100% Halal and made by pakistani muslims.
Have you saw the advirtisement of Junaid jamshed in which he says halal ko haram kehna bahut bara ghunah hai.
LAYS 100% HALAL.
MAZZEY SE KHAO AUR ENJOY.
nazir
salam
any muslim tell me is it true that lays chips is made up of pig fat
plz reply me
ITS A PROPAGANDA FROM COCA COLA AND SLANTY AND SUPER CRISP.
LAYS IS 100% HALAL BAQI SUB HARAM
salam
jesa k upar likha hua hai k agar yeh pig k ilawa kissi our fat se bani hui hai to bhi haram hai kyun k wo angrez jo hain wo cow and sheep ko muslim ki tarah nahe qurban krta lekin yeh to lahore mien bun rahe hai kya fats angrezon se mangwata hain
According ro islam if there is any doubt aboutb something that it is haram or hilal u should avoid that thing. Now its simple!
My Dear Brother Rashid,
There is no doubt in LAYS as LAYS is 100% HALAL and only made from HALAL raw material and by Muslim employees and in Muslim country
My dear brother why you don’t think that it is a propaganda and rumor
Please contact LAYS Company directly and get any kind of proof you want
pak.customerservice@intl.pepsico.com
Regards,
You’re Brother
Umar Shafique
me aap ki bat manleta ho Lekin aap mughe is ka profe de ye bat such he.
Or mughe in codes k liye jo aap ne likkhe he aap koi out of contary ki easi web site batain k me is surch karo.
QALA RASOLULLAHI (S.A.W) INNAMAL AMALO BIN NIYAT.
TARJOMA: ALLAH K RASOOL (S.A.W) NE IRSHAD FARMAYA K TAMAM AMAL KA DAROMADAR NIAT PER HE.
it is a matter of fact that LAYS CHIPS CARRIES PIG FATS. i have searched other links too. now the questions and confusions about SAUDI CERTIFICATE FOR LAYS, GOVT. ADDS, AND PIG EXISTENCE IN PAKISTAN.
i would like to tell that in sindh and punjab, pig farms exist where they are fed and kept. but they are very remote areas in jungles and they are owned by land lords. i have visited one farm in sindh near sukhur.
secondly, SAUDI CERTIFICATE and GOVT. all are fake. its the game of money and nothing else.
its the age of science dear all, be ware of things. and see the ingrediants of many other multinational products and match the codes.
PROVE YOURSELF TRUE MUSLIMS. I AM SURE NO ONE WILL DIE WITHOUT LAYS CHIPS. PLEASE AVOID IT. AT LEAST IN THIS AGE, WE CAN DO SUCH A LITTLE EFFORT. PLEASE FORWARD IT AND QUIT USING LAYS. BE EDUCATED AND SENSIBLE.
Dear Samiq,
You are big mother fucker and son of pig
You visit the farm and i thik some big pig fuck your ass
TATOOO OF SUPER CRISPES
Dear owner of this forum please close this topic now as this topic is only a fake story because it is proved by company that LAYS chips is HALAL and it is also proved by some ULAMA IKRAM in pakistan and JUNAID JAMASHAD alos annouce on TV that LAYS IS 100% HALAL
Thanks,
Akbar
Karachi
ASLAM-O-ALAIKUM,
DEAR DR, WHATEVER U HAV RESEARCHED,,,,,IS JUST G8.U HAVE GIVEN US VERY GOOD INFORMATION.WE WERE JUST BLINDLY USING AND EATING THE THINGS WHICH ARE NOT HALAL FOR US.ALMIGHTY ALLAH HAS RESTRICTED US BECAUSE THESE THINGS ARE NOT GOOD FOR OUR HEALTH…BUT WE MUSLIMS,,,,,,, WE ARE MUSLIMS ONLY FOR NAME FIRST WE WERE BLIND BUT NOW WHEN EVERYTHING IS CLEAR INSTEAD ALL ARE EATING LAYS.I DONT UNDERSTAND THAT DID THESE PEOPLE HAVE TO STAY HERE? THEY DONT AFRAID THAT ONE DAY THEY HAV TO GO BACK IN FRONT OF ALMIGHTY ALLAH.
MAY ALLAH GIVE THEM SENSE. I WANT TO ASK WHAT SHOULD WE DO AGAINST THEM IN ADDITION OF LEAVING LAYS.????????/ I SHALL WAIT FOR YOUR REPLY AS ITS MY FIRST TIME GIVING COMMENTS.
Walikum Aslam
Excellent comment all the problem is here that we do not have firm faith that there is a Day ahead all of us when we all will be answerable to the ONE Power ALLAH there are not valid proofs provided by the company to remove the ambiguities in the minds of consumers so I feel that People using it blindly always open your eyes and beaware about the elements used in products of multinational firms
Dr Asma,
I want to fuck you could you send me your naked pictures.
You people are only need big penis
Naveed i want to fuck your sister could you please send me your demand that you got from super crisps
TATOO OF SUPER CRISPES
Although E631 used may be certified halal by Saudi Arabian authorities but its
E631 – Disodium inosinate
it May trigger gout, not permitted in foods for infants and young children
Can anyone please comment on that
Imran,
E631 and other flavour enhancers are being used widely world-wide. I have never seen any ban on this anywhere.
World’s most authentic organizations are FAO and WHO and they have joint body Codex, which is allowing these ingredients (flavour enhacers E621, E631, E627).
Salaam
i have read above discussion,
i did not notice any person who thinks Lays is halal, can provide any SOLID Clarification, so we all should AVOID Lays Chips, till we get any solid proof that it is halal.
We should keep in mind that pig fat`s products have very negative effects on character, as a person is attracted more & more by nudity and etc.
May ALLAH and Rasool (s.a) guide us and protect us.
http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631-lays.pdf,, and it should leave any doubt in peoples mind ,,unnecessary doudting is not a good thing.
Wamma Allaina illal balag
plz chk this link out, u’ll get a clear idea of what is happenng
http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm
Numan Majeed
Student MBBS
Muhammad Medical College
Mirpur Khas, Pakistan
Student editor BMJ
Student editor Scientific Medicine
+923334757566
Click to access e631-lays.pdf
comments on these proofs???????
Does Coca-Cola and Pepsi have any ingredients related to pigs?? pls tell us detaile and all pigs code.thnx
By keeping discussion in mind I will like to share a website http://zakirnaikblog.blogspot.com which is a website about great islamic scholar Zakir Naik who made a lot oif non muslims to accept islam by his speeches.
BT NEARLY IN ALL THNGS V EAT GOT E NMBRS SERIES SPECIALLY CHOX N BSCUITS. NW CHK MMS 4 INSTNS IT GOT E171,E110,E129,E102,E132,E133. SO DT MEANS V SHD AVOID IT ALSO?????
N SPECIALY BISCONNI BSCUITS. PLZ CMMNT N LET ME KNW.
I THNK MEDICLE PPL CAN CMNT GUD ON IT WD PROOFS
oh no ! im really really surprised and shocked to heaar, but what about all that what mr. Junaid Jamshaid has said all about lays as halal.
friends i would say please please never ever believe these atars and dont b so blind n we all must have a look at all these wrappers and we must b aware of all these e codes.
for God sake have knowledge about all these scientific and systematic things. we are soooooooo backward because of ignorance. o God! we must be aware of swine flu its causes also. and if we know these causes we can avoid all such things . please please teach ur beloved children also.
as Muslims we must research all about such things and boycot lays…………
its shameful for those muslims who spread all wrong things among muslims.
oh no ! im really really surprised and shocked to heaar, but what about all that what mr. Junaid Jamshaid has said all about lays as halal.
friends i would say please please never ever believe these stars and dont b so blind n we all must have a look at all these wrappers and we must b aware of all these e codes.
for God sake have knowledge about all these scientific and systematic things. we are soooooooo backward because of ignorance. o God! we must be aware of swine flu its causes also. and if we know these causes we can avoid all such things . please please teach ur beloved children also.
as Muslims we must research all about such things and boycot lays…………
its shameful for those muslims who spread all wrong things among muslims.
oh no ! im really really surprised and shocked to heaar, but what about all that what mr. Junaid Jamshaid has said all about lays as halal.
friends i would say please please never ever believe these stars and dont b so blind n we all must have a look at all these wrappers and we must b aware of all these e codes.
for God sake have knowledge about all these scientific and systematic things. we are soooooooo backward because of ignorance. o God! we must be aware of swine flu its causes also. and if we know these causes we can avoid all such things . please please teach ur beloved children also.
as Muslims we must research all about such things and boycot lays…………
its shameful for those muslims who spread all wrong things among muslims.
Do something as muslims……..
I am holding Lays French Cheese flavor in my hand; Should I eat it or what? I am hungry.
be human beings not religion beings
When I was working quality assurance at the packaging plant in SA, we routinely poured pig fat (basically liquid lard) and pigs blood into our seasoning vats and prayed to the real God to end Islam.
As far as I know, this goes on to this day.
enjoy your chips.
At my new job we produce copies of the quran for distribution in UAE and saudi. during the paper pulp process, we use hundreds of tons of pig fat to create the laminate sheen on the pages for the quran… these we import as “emulsion agents” for use in paper industry.
enjoy your pork quran.
abe dalle teri ma ki chut kya likha h..tune pta h tujhe..teri behen ki chut kaafir
Aslam o Alekum all my muslim friends,
I am in very confuse condition. can anyone tell me whats the RUHAAN, and is this a muslim name. please please help me….
ABOUT THE WIDE SPREAD PROPAGANDA OF USING PIGS FATS IN PAKISTANI LAYS I WANT TO SAY THAT IT IS THE PRIME RESPONSIBILITY OF OUR GOVERNMENT TO DO RESEARCH ON THE ISSUE AND TO CLARIFY TO THE COMMON MAN WHAT IS THE REALITY . BECAUSE PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW WHO IS SAYING TRUTH, THOSE WHO HAVE ALLEGEDLY SPREAD THE PROPAGANDA OR THOSE WHO DEFENDS THE LAYS COMPANY. PAKISTANI PEOPLE WILL BE THANKFUL TO THEIR GOVERNMENT.
Assalam-0-alaikum everybody. This is my 1st time to write a note in the regarding of pig fat in Lays chips and other products.If E631 is code of pig fat in Lays chips, every muslim should try to avoid this product because its HARAM for muslims. I think its the propaganda of all about that these non muslims try to feed the pig to the muslims. We should take an action at any level to prevent and stop its production, consumption, distribution and try to be aware about it to other muslims also. ALLAH HAFIZ
Agreed ! Avoid Lay’s ..AND all products with Pepsi Logo
Forwar this 2 ur frendx and fmly
I am surprise to know the lays contain pig fat so i this time we negelet that product.I pray allah that you get some brain.
its haram. its bad.i eat it tooo much.boooooooo
first, we want to say thanks to all those who informed us regarding this serious matter and I shall convey this message to other muslims.but its very bad .noone should do anything like this.when i think about all the lays i have eaten i feel like vommiting.i feel sorry for this.god curse all them who did this to us.
We should really avoid stuff that has haraam ingridents.
But we should always investigate as well.
Below are the “e” numbers of ingridents listed in lays. and i dont think they are haraam. can anyone please shed light on this?
E620 Glutamic acid flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E621 Monosodium glutamate(MSG) flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E622 Monopotassium glutamate flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E623 Calcium diglutamate flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E624 Monoammonium glutamate flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E625 Magnesium diglutamate flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E626 Guanylic acid flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E627 Disodium guanylate, sodium guanylate flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E628 Dipotassium guanylate flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E629 Calcium guanylate flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E630 Inosinic acid flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E631 Disodium inosinate flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E632 Dipotassium inosinate flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E633 Calcium inosinate flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E634 Calcium 5′-ribonucleotides flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E635 Disodium 5′-ribonucleotides flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E636 Maltol flavour enhancer N/A
E637 Ethyl maltol flavour enhancer N/A
E640 Glycine and its sodium salt flavour enhancer Approved in the EU.[7]
E641 L-leucine flavour enhancer N/A
E642 Lysine hydrochloride flavour enhancer N/A
E650 Zinc acetate flavour enhancer
you can chekc on wikipedia.
Dear Brother Assalamualikum hum ye janna chahate hai india me lonch wo products ke nam hum ko bhejo jo jisme pig ka gost ya (charbi )fat istemal hota ho
kurkurey has aslo E635 code.and halal is also written so wats this matter
i m shocked and surprised idont believe it
Hum bhi aap se shamat hai ki . Lays hamari helth ke liye bilkoollllll
bhi achhi nahi hain.
mujhe to yaqin hi nahin ho raha hai
shukar hai meri aankhein khol gayie
lekin mein itni asani se in baton ko nahin maan sakta
abhi mein is per mazeed resarch karna pasand karon ga
kyun k ham bina tehqeq kiye kisi ko galat nahin keh sakte
Dear publisher of this fake topic off pig fat in Lays masala potato chips
Please provide me your e mail address so that i can send you halal certificates from Saudi Arabia regarding lays chips ingredient E631 and please avoid posting such kind of propaganda only on the behalf of some miss information’s
If any one other than this publisher need these certificates please write me on this email address I will provide you immediately
Umar.shafique@hotmail.com
Please Muslim brothers and sisters kindly change our lives through some practical working not by only blaming others
My dear brother and sisters, Are you know that only due to these multinational companies a great number of Pakistani peoples getting good life standards and economy of Pakistan or becoming more strengthen day by day other wise you all well knows about Pakistani business mans what they provide to there employees and to this Pakistan only hide their incomes and making frauds in tax payments ( I am talking about major community not for all some business mans in Pakistan are doing well)
So please open your eyes and do the right things (May God bless us)
Regards,
Muhammad Umar Shafique
Kindly post the certificates on the site
assalamualaikum,
mere pyare muslim bhaiyon aur bahnoon of around
the world. aaj se lays,chips ko khana chod di jiye. kyun ke usme e631
[pig fat] hai.
lays colord with e160c Definition for e160c:
Paprika oleoresin (also known as paprika extract) is an oil soluble extract from the fruits of Capsicum Annum Linn or Capsicum Frutescens(Indian red chillies), and is primarily used as a colouring and/or flavouring in food products
so don’t misunderstand eat and enjoy lays
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ISLAM IS PURE AND SIMPLE
SO THIS ISSUES SOLUTION IS SIMPLE _
ANY WHO HAVE GET ANY SIMPLE DOUBT OF THIS THINGS <JUST BAN YOURSELF. U GOT "BLESSINGS FROM ALLAH " SURE
ALSO GET GOOD THINGS FROM ALLAH AND NEXT WORLD (AKHIRATH)
fuk u muslims traitors furking 2 or 3 wife is not harram
楽天 クラークス
Am a student of grade 9th. recently i heard about the pig fats and oils used in lays. i could not believe about the news. am a daily lays eater. my friends told me about the codes used. i searched in google for knowing the reality. i came to know it is true. i checked the codes with the packet. i saw some codes like E551, E621, E627……IS THIS HARMFUL TO MY HEALTH AND MY RELIGION? PLEASE REPLY.
No
simply Avoid Fast & foreign Foods.
hi my name akhtar nasar from quetta my colifaction BA i want job in lays
it,s my contact number 03438252152
Assalam o alaikum. Mere bhaiyo hum aksar sahi aor ghalt ki behs mein ana parasti pe utar aate hain hum ko aik dosre ki tazheeq nahi karni chahi hum musalman hain akhlaq humare har haal mein ache hone chahiye . Lays company hum mein sn kisi ki b nahi hai to phr hum us k liye apni zuban q gandi karain. Jahan tak lays k haram ya halal ki baat hai to hum mein se kisi k paas b koi thos dalil nai hai sochne ki baat to ye hai k kia lays koi itni zarori cheez hai k us k liye hum apne imaan ko khatre mein dalain . Ab pepsi ko hi dekh lain us mein kitni muzir ajza hain lekin hum istemal kar rahe hain jaante bojhte apni seht k saat khel rahe hain Jahan tak mein ne suna hai to pig k meday k opar se hasil hone wali charbi ko pepsin kehte hain to is aitebar se to ye saaf zahi hai k woh haram hai magar hum nai chor rahe. Isi tarah agar lays ka b sabit ho jata hai k us mein haram shamil hai to b hum apne liye jawaz dhondne ki koshish karain ge hum sb ki ye aik adat ho gai hai k jo kaam hum khud karte hain ya jis ko hum durst maan letey hain to bs ussi ko sb par thopne ki koshish karte hain humain lagta hai k hum hi durst hain jis din humare dimagh se ‘mein’ nikal jaye ga humain aik dosre ko sunaney aor samajhne mein aasaani ho jaye gi. Musalmam bhaiyo pleas kafiron ki product k liye aapasi ranjish mat peda karo lays haram hai ya nai lekin nafrat , tazheeq aor jhot ka haram hona sabit hai. Meri aap se guzarish hai k kafiron ki bani hoi cheezon ka bycott hi karo agar kar sako to. Aap sb par Allah ki rahmat ho. Aameen
http://www.food-info.net/uk/e/e631.htm you must read it E31 may not have pork it’s wrong
it truth im also read and listen on a malasyin website and news channel
As Salam alaikum,
We’re meant to be the best Ummah to lead & guide Mankind to truth & right guidance.
To avoid fitna we should have a spirit of distinguishing right from wrong , discernment, FURQAN.
A way to do that is to ask the tale carrier for PROOF.
Especially, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
We’re only responsible for what we know definitively to be true, otherwise it’s a grey area.
This article falls at the first step, mentioning a study, but no way of VERIFYING it.